Demoralizing shout is bugged and it is why we have this AoE meta

We all just know now how effective it is to stack classes, and this feeds into the gogogo meta that started in Wrath and persists through today.

You just need to find a guild that consists of people who are not interested in playing WoW like it’s an e-sport.

Interesting. Battle shout buff produces threat. Rank 7 produces 70 base line threat , if in defensive stance that’s bumped up to 91.

In this video it suggest that demo shout only produces a fixed 55.9 threat per mob.

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Yeah letting people that ruined this game before is not a problem loool.

So what, you want Blizzard to step in every time a meta develops? Do you really wanna be babysat?

The players will always find a most optimal build.

This, and honestly that’s one of the slippery slopes that got us to retail.

People need to stop dwelling on metas, it obviously ruins the game, retail case and point.

The threat bug wasnt fixed until 2.1 I think

Except you don’t even need a tank for aoe dungeon leveling. I was pulling all of cathedral with 3 mages, 1 resto druid, and 1 holy priest (holy nova). That’s probably the hardest pull you’ll encounter and no tank needed

Something is wrong because I remember it differently are my favorite threads.

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The only place I’ve even heard of this supposed meta is here on the forums when people complain about it. I don’t think it’s really a thing.

The difference is that players know better now. Back then most warrior tanks didn’t know they were better of using demo shout over thunderclap.

According to the video I just linked apparently 3 and under, battleshout buff is better? O.o

Hi All,

We have identified a fix for an issue that was causing Demoralizing Shout/Roar to generate too much threat when applied to multiple enemies. In addition, we’ve also identified a fix for a separate issue that was causing Battle Shout and most healing spells, effects, and buffs to incorrectly split the threat they generate between enemies that had members of the buffed party on their threat list.

Hotfixes for these issues are going to be deployed very soon, at which time all of these effects will match their functionality in the 1.12 reference client.

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Thanks for looking into it, Aggrend.

Surprising about Battle Shout in the reference client, but happy to have the 1.12 version in the end.

this some bs on gang

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Thanks for your hard work!

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Thisll be interesting. Even fewer tanks!

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How about you leave the Demo shout alone, please.

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Can you give a little more info on the battle shout change?

What was it doing vs what is it doing now?

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Sweet! Keep finding bugs!

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Oh, sillies.

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