im sorry that its not a 10% chance per blade dance to throw one glaive to make it more “fun” for you
Hopefully they remove ragefire and the changes will be alright.
Lets not give them any more bad advice. They’ve already removed one of the nicest talents we’ve had in awhile which we just got at the end of last expansion.
ragefire can pump but is awful to use.
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Ragefire is one of havocs worst talents right now.
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So you suggest to remove it, instead of fix it. Ever hear of ‘don’t throw out the baby with the bath water?’
The tier set was amazing but it’s terrible for reaver. Unless they change it to not consume reaver glaives and only ever send basic glaives.
When I was leveling my dh that still had tier it would consume reaver glaives.
It’s important to sit on reaver glaives stacks to dump in burst windows or spread them out for the buff uptime, but your blade dances will just waste them constantly
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Increasing our sustained damage by a lot, giving us a lot of free passive cleave, and lowering the delta in ST loss between ST and AoE scenarios.
We lost 3%~ ST damage when speced for AoE in DF S3. We lose 17% now.
Honestly, I’d rather we get something that buffs Blade Dance damage in AoE scenarios instead of having Immolation Aura be our AoE spender.
It’s delayed damage, we are usually moving in AoE scenarios, so the ticks of IA can miss, and the Ragefire specifically calculates its damage in a way that doesn’t benefit from other talents.
It’s an incredibly boring talent, that in some situations is incredibly annoying to play around (Tindral, Fyrakk, for example).
If you ask me, I’d rather have it gone and replaced for talents that buff Blade Dance AoE damage.
Realz confirmed on the DH Discord that this will be the case. You will cast RG manually, and the tier set will not proc it.
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Are you saying the DH Dev is primarily taking feedback from the Fel Hammer discord? This spec is screwed. Here comes six more mini micro burst windows to line up.
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No, not really.
Else that Cycle of Hatred wouldn’t have make it into PTR notes.
Well next time they drops by, tell them EssB is buggy as all hell and it’s a horrible talent and needs to be shot. If they insist on this terrible 4s burst window ideology, then make EssB an aura or buffs glaive tempest to empower our blade dance and cs.
The cone effect needs to go. Go bang on the 5 target dummies for a bit moving around and tell me how inconsistent that cone effect is.
I find it very, very funny that DH players on the forums tweak out about ‘ThE dIsCoRD!!!’ when Blizzard makes an even slightly questionable decision about Havoc.
There’s not a conspiracy, you just suffer from intense delusions, lmao.
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That was already suggested, turning EssB into something that buffs your next X spenders.
Also, another thing that got suggested is making Felblade to cancel your movement always, regardless of whether you’re inside the hitbox of the boss or not, to make VR → Felblade consistent regardless of hitbox size.
Delusions. Where else is this dev communicating with the general DH community. Even in the general forums or on wowhead they don’t tell us the direction that DHs are going. So yeah, when you hear they stop by the discord to talk to a vocal minority it doesn’t give me a lot of confidence in their design choices because this is by far the worst Havoc has been in a long time.
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Oh…the FB change sounds interesting. I never could perfect the VR to Felblade. Sometimes I’d snap back and sometimes I would just do the animation and fly back 15 ft only to have to feel rush.
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If you’re dying because FB isn’t triggering it’s because you are still in the hit box which means it’s not going to trigger because you are still in melee range. Skill issue. Like most DH players that suck at movement, they want it removed all together and the people that enjoyed the unique play style have to suffer due to the incompetence of others. Go play one of the other 39 specs that don’t require movement for damage.
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If you go look in the feedback page in the discord, the very 2nd piece of feedback (please fix all of our bugs is number 1) is to cut down on all of the stacking damage amps.
Changing how essence break works and/or making it a choice node with the old talent chaos blades are also listed.
Dont listen to the troll above (not you, to be clear) that spends all his time blaming every one of life’s problems on the mysterious discord mod shadow council. Other things that have been suggested in this very thread, like making Cycle work like raddon’s or be a flat cdr (or also reduce EssB, like Anger Management for warriors) instead of whatever this new version is that pretty much everyone’s initial reaction to was negative when they heard how it works, are not unique to here either.
Dont get me wrong, that discord is a hot mess for plenty of other reasons, i’ve just seen nothing to back up the whole “the discord elite are controlling the dev to make a spec that only 1% of DHs like” conspiracy and plenty to contradict it (especially over the beta).
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These are good suggestions. I think it’s been a nightmare for them to balance mover vs no mover builds primarily because of essence break. Burst vs sustained, burst will almost always win. But I think a simpler demonic based no mover build should still be competitive but still do less than a more complex play style.
It would even give us better play style options for raid. I’d switch to a less punishing more forgiving demonic no mover build for certain bosses.
For those that say it’s close today, it really isn’t. Sims might show a 5-10% loss but it’s far more when you talk about burst AoE vs a slower sustained build.
Burst windows of 10-15s every 40s would be ideal. It’s one of the reasons ret is fun and powerful. It’s also less punishing if you screw something up.
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I wouldn’t call what realz types there to be communicating. Closer to trolling
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