What game are you playing that gives mythic ilvl loot for delves?
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delves as it stands now is a 1-2 week annoyance.
Disagree. You get heroic drops and heroic vault from the first few bosses in the raid, delves may be the outlier in rewards but that is compared to M+ which is the outlier in difficulty and that is because it is entirely spammable.
Until actual mythic raiding level does this not become the case, which is why M+ rewards cap out at heroic drops and mythic vault.
No, delves are simply not required in any way, shape, or form.
Like I said, I didn’t do delves at all because I don’t enjoy them and I’m 633 ilvl.
The people doing delves are the people that enjoy doing delves, which is fine and the way it should be.
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Maybe not in your heroic guild but most ce level Guilds absolutely require them
Nah. It’s called evening part of a team. Yiu don’t play at that level you don’t really have any credibility to comment on what is and isn’t required.
The sooner everyone has heroic tier the sooner every can push into mythic.
Everyone doing delves for heroic tier opens up tokens for other people to get set bonuses faster.
No CE guild is requiring delves what are you talking about?
CE guilds spam M+ for hero track gear, delves can only give you 1 hero track piece and that is from vault…CE guilds are taking myth track pieces from their vaults, not hero track garbo.
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My guild is a CE guild. All of the people who are in the guild are CE vets. Not a single one of them has made a stink about this. Entirely a you issue lol
That’s a pretty big assumption, chief, especially considering I said we’re pushing Broodtwister on mythic lol
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Uh most definitely are early season.
Hero tier early on.
Some classes like mage/lock would absolutely take a hero candle
You refuse to do 2-6 because it’s “unrewarding”. You’re wrong, that’s progression.
I don’t disagree with that, but a compromise must be made then. I’m guessing they’re going to bump up the rewards in M+ next season, and that’ll be the reason M+ players get funneled into their own path.
Raid is the outlier in this as it doesn’t allow increased ilvl in the vault (which is stupid imo)
Delves are an outlier for overall rewards due to vault rewards
And m+ is stuck in the middle as no matter how high you go, even beyond the difficulties of mythic raiding, you’re limited to 1 mythic piece
Same thing as nerfing delve rewards which will be easier because then you won’t have to adjust raids either
Easy to say hiding on an alt. I’ll take $200 that didn’t happen Alex.
Pushing it this late in the tier is definitely heroic guild level.
Yes we all did delves in the week before the season started and took the only vault item we would ever take from delves for week 1.
They became completely irrelevant the moment M+ went live and I haven’t touched them since.
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It was very common to have delves done for the option of heroic tier for catalyst.
You wouldn’t catalyze a hero tier legs but if it turned into hero tier you would take it.
Also that one caster dagger was stupid strong too.
Not true. While they didn’t stay relevant long saying hero tier is worthless early season is a joke at best.
I foresee the future of the three pillars in my mind’s eye.
Delves at reward cap will drop champion pieces perhaps reduced to a chance rather than guarantee. Quite possible that reward cap is pushed into higher tiers. They will award hero vaults.
M+ at reward cap will continue to drop hero pieces by chance/player. They will continue to award mythic vaults.
Raids at reward cap will continue to drop mythic pieces by chance/player. They will continue to award mythic vaults.
How things are tuned from there is unclear to me.
Now let there be much rejoicing.
Unless you were clearing 4/8M that first week, 8/8 on T8 delves were still relevant due to them dropping tier pieces on a Hero track level
There’s zero reason to do that. What delve players get doesn’t effect M+, and by this you’re over prioritizing the M+ player over a delve player. Clearly they’re happy with hero track as the peak, so are 99% of the players I’ve seen.
If you can buff the drops in M+, and both groups are happy, why wouldn’t you choose that instead of nerfing one group.
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No no no no no no no, a million times no.
Any CE guild that is even halfway decent is just armor stacking M+ for hero track gear.
If you take a vault item from a delve after the opening vault we got from the week before the season started…you are griefing. Most mages and locks are using Sacbrood Spymasters.
Yeah, you’re right. I should take my advice from the guy whose guild is only 5/8 and has been hardstuck on Nexus-Princess since November 5th. Running delves every week is certainly making a difference for you all lol
Yes yes yes yes
/facepalm.
Yes sacbrood and spymasters are bis. But candle wasn’t far behind and for early season candle was a very very good choice.