Good, it really does feel like forced content in the early weeks. I hate it. 616 vault/610 loot is too good for solo play. People need to be reminded this isn’t skyrim where you go into a dungeon and find enchanted dragonbone gear(equivalent of mythic) laying around for solo play.
The vault and delver’s bounties aren’t an issue. Bountiful champion guaranteed 1 to 1 is where there’s a problem in the gear process. It’s just too fast and too strong for how easy the content is. Reduce key intake or remove the key system, but put odds of gear out of chest.
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What frustrates me about M+ rewards is that they are too rewarding for M+ players.
Heroic raiders are forced into M+ for upgrades.
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Right, people should play WoW the way it was intended, which is
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Buying and/or grinding copious amounts of gold so they can get carried and get the gear they want instead lmao
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I honestly believe that is how some vocal forum people believe the game should be, and IMO it should not, not now, not ever.
Yep because everyone “better than you” bought it .
There really doesn’t seem to be any consensus as to what the issue really is. It’s causing a different problem for every person you ask about it.
I’d be open to making the end of delve champion piece a chance as opposed to a guarantee but I don’t think that’s going to fix the complaints about being “forced” to get delve vaults or the suppose claim that 619 delvers with 0 rating are bricking 7s.
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No such thing.
Not for you to decide.
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Weird comment but alright lol
Lucrend believes higher gear rewards are ALWAYS better.
And they should never be nerfed because number go up = always good.
So someone not to listen to if debating game balance.
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I don’t really care about players feeling forced to do content, they’ll feel forced if there’s a competitive reason to do it anyway.
I already ignored them for saying “why do you care about other players” for the umpteenth time.
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Honestly at this point I’m questioning their ability to follow a basic rotation
Which is why they think delves are so difficult
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I agree with that for sure.
Show me where I said anything remotely like this.
I’ve spent way too much time in Zekvir ?? at 630 ilvl (with pvp trinket, so like 634) Evoker is one of the harder classes for it, and my evoker performance is probably less than tank dps. (As Dev)
But did it.
Brann being level 30 probably has an impact too… idk how much stronger Brann at level 60 is.
What happened to me though, and Ion touched that, is that delves being so much easier and faster than early m+ removed any reason to run them and i decided to insert myself in m+ much later. It wasn’t that bad because I was with a full group of friends, but I can see why it’s annoying for pug.
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+6 keys and earlier felt pointless. No upgrades. Run some for score, so others will invite.
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See I pugged it out but I’m usually doing normal and some heroic raiding earlier in the season and then coming in late to get KSM. So to me doing delves and some raiding just means I have an extra option for the same overall routine.
I also started at 2s and worked up anyhow.
Yeha I could start at 6-7 because I was with friends. Not sure I would have been happy doing +2 for gear I’ve outgrown weeks before.
It ooozes off of you. It’s why you’re so mad about rewards being nerfed