Dungeons also took 1+ hour but go on lmao
Maybe Delves will increase more participation in group content. The barrier to getting into M+ was huge in all versions of existence.
I prefer to do delves when i can for sure. I love doing anykind of solo content.
Interesting to do it on an evoker though. I soloed a +10 delve the other night. Wanna try an 11 at some point.
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Eh, some of the weeklies give a full key so I don’t really bother gathering fragments. I’m also not interested in maximizing my vault every week, so for people like me delves are fine. I avoid the ones I find unfun. I’m just happy that by 585 ish I could actually switch to frost and play how I want instead of being blood lol for 8s.
I don’t get uninterrupted play time as I did before for m+ but I like that delve gear makes sure that when I do get into a run with my friends I’m not being carried – thanks to the delves. And I fully understand why pug leaders would rather a higher rating than just a reasonable ilv.
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Nice! I’m still plugging Tier 7s and 8s to do the Great Vault track, but I’ve done a 9 and am working on tweaking for 10s as my rogue here. What spec were you running and Brann’s spec?
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Devestation and bran was healer
Two guild mates helped me with a 7 in this Delve last week. This is what they said to do so that we could make the light last longer and it was something I’ve tucked away to remember when doing this one again.
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Yeah, I found after a certain point, putting Brann on Healer and Tricks of the Trading Brann before (and when I can during) pulls definitely helped with survival, being able to trade threat and heal as need be. Were you cleaving through them like a knife through hot butter or feeling the bounce around about the same?
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I do that too it helps a lot
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Some adds would melt some wouldn’t depended on the adds. Beans healing potions helped out a lot mixed with the evoker heal damage taken back over time.
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I actually really like Delves mostly because I can set the pace and not worry about others getting bent over it.
They have been a great addition for me since I dont raid or mythic run.
I don’t feel like I’m falling behind and well, I just love letting all of my demons have a field day.
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M+ was never meant to be pug content in the first place. Go back to Ion’s interviews for Legion, it was meant for guilds and static groups.
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So far most of the complaints I’ve seen revolve around people expecting Brann to be a God that just carries them, or people unironically shocked that they can’t solo Tier 8s in 460 gear.
Oh and a healthy number of players who refuse to play a DPS spec and will complain about not being able to solo it as a Healer quickly.
Oh delves are great. I love them.
The M+ crowd, myself included are not so much upset at delves, they are upset with how blizzard changed the way M+ scales/ranks from what it used to be. The M+ progression is WAY outta wack because they changed the diffiulcuty of them all over the place and they are all sorts of unbalanced.
Whats annoying is that delves are 10x easier to do, but give you better loot then doing M+ so its more that the M+ crowd just wants blizzard to unscrew their method of play, and revert it back to what it was in DF.
Delves are the new path of least resistance to good vault rewards… they’re not particularly fun imo, but they’re fine.
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I actually find delves insanely fun
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Well, the main reason is due to the ilvl of the gear you can get, especially from GV.
But I agree, I prefer delves over M+ any day. Been enjoying the challenges of the higher ones - just needs to reward gear past +8 now.
But it’s proof blizzard are quite capable of making challenging rewarding content without just recycling old content with a timer and random RNG affixes.
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No, they finally fixed the reward vs effort ratio for M+. It only took them 5 expansions to do it.
Good M+ players aren’t worry about the new changes one bit, its the bad M+ players that are having a tough time adapting.
Blizzard finally positioned M+ where it should have been since day 1 in Legion.
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no, no they did not. The effort to do 1-5 M+ is no where near on par with the effort of doing a T8 delv, not even close, not even in the same ball pack, not even on the same planet.
Also not true every single M+ play i know that pushes for 3k are all saying the same thing, that this season is scuffed. Balancing is way off, rewards are not incentivizing becuause they pushed the rewards WAY back behind higher keys with needing to do 9+ to get guilded crests where as before you could do a 16 to get them.
100% this. The M+ gravy train is over, and now only those who truly enjoy it will continue to run higher keys. It will expose M+'s true popularity now.
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