Delves have been pretty great. Which means Blizzard is going to ruin them soon.
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I don’t really get why doing an 11 seems identical to an 8 including experience and vanity drops.
Feels like they want to drag it out. Will likely do the last boss ?? Fight but im going to be missing a lot of rewards from drops not scaling.
Oh there’s pretty much no reason to go past 8 except for achievement. GV caps at 616 and you get that doing T8s. So any going past that is just if you want to challenge yourself.
Would be nice if it gave exp or faster progression on the mount customization options. Im not looking for power I just rather do fewer harder instances then grind it.
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The longer you have to grind, the longer you have to play. Blizz logic
I think they’re attacking. Not specifically just by saying it’s easy, but by outright saying to reduce the rewards. I mean it’s obvious, they’re mad it’s more easily accessable. We’ve seen countless topics on it. They don’t care about people who love delves, or prefer that content. They only care about themselves. Again, not all M+ players are like this. Many have said they like delves too, and even some who said they prefer them as an alternate upgrade path.
I think M+ is great for people who want to do it. Specifically for people who want to, because I think a lot of players felt funneled into it as their only feasible way to experience end game content in Wow. Now, they have an option, and that shouldn’t be an issue.
I also don’t think they’re going to change delves at all. If anything, I think they’ll build on them more.
Sweaty content, pushing the limits over and over in a tense environment where you feel as though you can’t make a single mistake is not what most people want out of wow. Like I said. Good for those who want that, but the majority definitely don’t want that. Now they have options. They need to get over it, and accept it’s going to be like this moving forward. Just stay in their bounds.
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I’m wrong, based on your wealth of experience in M+?
You know what you’re talking about in M+, and the people who play it…because you do M+ right?
Except that the opposite is true.
You don’t engage in it.
at all.
Your opinion on M+ and it’s community is completely, utterly invalid because you don’t do M+ how would you know anything about it?
For the totem ones, you can drop the totem and torpedo out to pull mobs or pickup something before torpedoing back to safety. You can exist in the poison gas or whatever for a bit before it’s troublesome. That saves the totem or candle from burning out as fast.
But also fungal folly is the worst as melee. That last boss can suck it, I always roll into a spore or the mushroom and die 
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Not all, but there are definitely some that are attacking and it’s the type of behavior they’re demonstrating that makes M+ something I won’t be bothered to do outside of doing it with guildies. That in itself upsets them, as they try to tell me to form groups and hurl insults, as if I have any desire to play that mode.
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oh, i hate pet battles, just making a point. lol.
But see, your response was rational, logical and mature. We need more of that in here and less whiney trolling if someone gets something in content we dont do,
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Zekvir does not just fall over.
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Yea, I’ve talked to a few dedicated M+ players that have said they like having delves as gear to help them through content. Better gear makes progress easier. They also seem to distinctly separate themselves from the toxic portion of M+ who are not really shy about showing what kind of people they are.
A lot of the complaints seem to think people doing delves are getting full sets of heroic tier gear. That’s not the case. They’re getting a choice of one pick per week of ilvl616 gear that could be bad. Yes, it’s a bit easier to attain, but it is what it is. tier 8 delves at 570ilvl were kicking my butt, and it’s also very class dependent.
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meh. it’s aight but there’s not enough coffer keys to sustain it.
maybe later when we can buy keys from sir finley in dorn.
it doesnt feel good running them un-bountiful. at all.
even with infinite keys you can only run 4 bountifuls a day… a bit too casual.
Delves are the answer to the 20-years long problem, and I couldn’t be happier.
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Well yeah, that’s why so many of us are happy.
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delves arnt challenging in any way shape or form
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Crazy take here, I think that delves (some sort of solo play) should be a way to get your BiS (given they increase the difficulty or add new tiers). I am a completionism and would love a solo way to get my BiS.
I wouldn’t mind having to spend a long time of hard effort, but group play just takes out the fun of that effort now a days, especially in WoW.
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Have you tried Hard mode Zekvir yet ?? that suppose be done by all classes all spec in delve gear not raid gear or m+ 9 gear so good luck
More over T8 delve is definitely harder that Normal raids or M0
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Solo, they’re challenging. going into 9,10. it’s hard. Zekvir is also, very hard.
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There was casual gear in Vanilla. The dungeon blue gear could be upgraded. WoW has always had ways for casual players to get gear if they didn’t raid.
I hate this silly raid or die crap that people love to spew on these forums.
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