…doesn’t mean the audience that the delves were intended for are blowing through them. And now the same crowd (the elitist mythic/mythic+ raiders) who blew through it are trying to get the delve loot lowered. Because of the “easy difficulty” It’s the same cycle as always.
“Casuals don’t deserve better gear.”
The remark as old as WoW itself. Times change guys. Delves are fine, the loot and vault ilvl is fine. A casual player who wants to play solo or with a friend are not pushing 1m DPS on the charts or has DBM-delves installed. The content is tuned enough for there to be a reasonable challenge for them. Just because you’re a mythic andy who is the most ace player in the game and cleans delves super easy - it’s casual content with casual slow progression into heroic gear.
You’ll live with a not-so-good or casual player and their friend getting a piece of 616 loot in the vault. It won’t affect your elitist gameplay.
Raiders do anything that gives loot, and loot quick. The easier the better. Anything that helps gear you faster, to down bosses faster, basically feels like a required chore.
Nah I absolutely hate Delves. I aint doing them. But I know a lot of people are doing their 8 tier 8’s to get 3 extra slots of 616 gear options in the vault. Mythic guilds will out grow this, but Heroic only guilds wont.
This is the first post ive ever seen about trying to get delve loot lowered. The rare heroic piece is fine, the heroic piece from vault is fine, otherwise its 90% champion gear limited to having a key.
Are they tho? Most raiders I know smashed them so they could go into the raid 600ilvl+. I’m easily 10ilvl behind everyone else for not doing Delves. I’m the slacker on my raid team. They’re all like 605-610 and I am not even 600
Like I said. Does not matter. The way Delves should have been was SOLO only. Why? Then they’d fit a space, SOLO play. M+ would be the 5 man play, and raids the 10+ players. Right now Delves = dungeons but better rewards and easier
Honestly it’s more than 603 stuff making M+ below +6 or so pointless that bothers me.
Because, yeah, 616 in the vault isn’t a huge deal. It’s one piece a week.
But the baseline 603s? Yeah, everyone doing as many delve keys as they could were kitting out in mostly 603s by this 2nd week of Delves.
Means doing any low Mythic+ is just worthless.
In kinda the same way Raiding below Mythic is worthless because M+ does the same thing to Raiding.
(Another problem Blizzard never acknowledged as a problem, meaning Delves will likely stay as they are or very close to as they are)
(granted Delves don’t go quite as far for Mythic+, but pretty close to the same thing anyway)
My biggest gripe with Delves is how they are tuned. Tanks have the solo down easy. Pet classes (locks/hunters) also easier time. Too crappy to run on healers. There’s no balance with them between classes and specs
These are the people who refuse to comprehend exactly who Delves are for. Blizz specifically designed them with solo and casual small groups in mind. People who want to run with one or two family members or by themselves.
But the problem is that they did not implement Delves in such a way that we would progress during the whole season. Everyone devoured it in a day. It’s bad design. They took Horrific Visions, sprinkled some Torghast on top, added a follower then called it a day with no thought to pace/cadence or how the key structure should work.
