Death Knight is Weak

That was Cata, and it was an unintentional bug that was patched out.

Tell me where they staid “we prefer Death Knights to use a 2h”. Those words exactly. You keep saying that is what they said, yet they never said it. In fact they said they prefer the class to have both. The class as a whole so you have the option somewhere. 2h you went blood or unholy, DW you went frost. They achieved their goal and you dont like it.

Only on alternate Azeroth.

superfan?? lol i friggen hate frost. i play UH genius, hence my original comment to you from day one: unholy should’ve kept dw’ing as well because it makes more sense.

yeah, i can see that happening. =]

and even though the bug was fixed, you could STILL dw as unholy
 hell, blood too if you wanted to parry everything.

Man i ran out of popcorn ok time to go get some more

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Dude SoO 2h wasn’t bad but wod was dw howling blast spam. Seriously go watch old videos.

So thats why you dont know anything about frost, seems like you didnt like unholy either.

Yeah, you could DW as blood and unholy if you wanted to, and should be benched for it because there was no benefit to it. You were just nerfing yourself because those specs were built around using a 2h.

Its people like you of why they completely removed those options, why they had to color coordinate the presences because people that didnt read anything went around saying “frost presence for frost” when trying to DPS in wrath.

Again, just because you could, doesnt mean you should. Its about how the specs were designed.

Well it’s been over 6 years and you haven’t learned that Unholy doesn’t scale, neither did frost until KM R2 along with the rest of the discord so try harder in regards to learning.

This weeks Warcraft logs blew that whole ‘we need soul bind scaling and nothing more’ theory that Tazenak tried floating right out of the water in such spectacular fashion that it should put the whole dev team on notice to take anything coming from the discord community with a huge grain of salt, or just outright ignore.

You can mock Kel all you like, but aside from KM rank 2 and October frost nerfs that one has been correct on more things than the Discord community combined, because you’re an echo chamber. Yes, I go there once a week for the sheer amusement and read most of the new stuff although I do not participate because I have less than no respect for that community at large.

You’re good at outlining the most basic things about DK, just leave it at that. 6 years of suggestions from your community and the class is in the worst place it’s ever been in with the exception of KM R2 which was a wow forum idea.

doesn’t matter if i liked frost or not
 fact of the matter is still this- you was wrong.

blah, blah blahblahblah.

you
 was
 wrong.

You’re either Kell on an alt or Kell’s “other”
 the sheer amount of white knighting you do for this person is astounding. You only show up in posts where they’ve made themself look like a fool.

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Get something new. Just running around saying people are wrong means absolutely nothing coming for you that just assume stuff based on name alone.

Looks like the only one that was somewhat right in the talk with Limit Max was the warrior rep. Its not Mythic yet, but this is the time when these good players can go all out.

Taez did say Unholy would be good early on until you got the tier set and then would fall. If its going to fall from its position now welcome to more Unholy complaints.

I would say Frost was in a worst place in WoD. People can look it up right now. Mythic, 90th percentile and it was being beat by Gladiator Warriors. It was 4th from the bottom. Doing around 125k dps on average while unholy was at 144k and fire and arcane was up at like 187k. There was around a 13% difference between Frost and Unholy, and almost a 40% difference between the top and Frost (dk). Even in Highmaul where 2h and DW were around the same, it was still 22% behind the number 1 slot.

Saying Death Knights are weak after that nightmare of a balance cycle and blaming Artifacts for the removal of 2h so they could focus on the spec as a whole is just baffling.

Right now the balance from top and bottom isnt that bad. The difference between top spec and Frost is
 4%. Even unholy is only 6%. We will see how things play out in Mythic and how things play out with tier sets. We kind of have a neutral baseline right now. 4 and 6%. Funny how dps dropped from last raid tier which I dont think has ever happened (quit with the barrowed power bs blizz) in the history of WoW.

sure, as soon as you quit pretending you wasn’t wrong several times, all while attempting to change topics like goal posts


Imagine if you played the game vs playing the forums. How much further you’d experience the class beyond 9.0 content.

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Really? Changing goal posts? Says who? You?

Im not wrong. Goal posts changing or not. If you are so right, you wouldnt give a damn if the goal posts change. The tactics you guys try to pull is overwhelm through numbers. Get as many people saying the same thing while not actually saying anything of substance, misinterpreting what someone says like saying blizzard said they “prefer 2h” when they actually prefer DW and 2h within a class as a whole and that if they couldnt do that then they would settle with a lower goal.

Say I change goal posts all you want. Go ahead and bring it back to the original, but all ive been doing is responding people who say asinine stuff like “blizzard prefers 2h” when they never said that and its twisting the meaning of words to “win”.

Blizzard wanted Frost to be DW. They placed Nerves of Cold Steel in the frost tree that you didnt even know what it did, they stated it prior to 3.2. I said long ago that its a nightmare to balance the 2 within the same spec, way back in BFA and talking about it was that nightmare as to why they removed 2h from a DW spec in the first place only come to find out that they said it was a challenge way back in wrath. HOLY COW! Its almost like its obvious.

There was no diseaseless 2h build unless you wanted to do less damage with Obliterate for some idiotic reason. DW used spells in their build
 which
 wait a minute
 when they split the spec they had a focus on spells repeating something that failed in the past that failed in MoP/WoD and why they didnt repeat it this time around and actually tried to fix some differences in the 2 weapons making 2h more like DW
 because its a DW spec.

Say im wrong all you want, if that makes you feel better you do you, but you havent showed that. In fact any evidence that has been brought up has been in my favor. Why do I have to present my own evidence when I can just use the stuff you guys present?

how come nobody ever changes from football goal posts to soccer goal posts?

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