I agree 100% we have been the weakest melee all of shadowlands something needs to change and blizz needs to buff us like the spellwarden nerf I was like wtf dk is already weak and u make us weaker … blizz needs to make the meta change quit buffing classes that are already good give them nerfs and buff something else for once change the meta…. I’m probably just going to unsubscribe this game makes me mad.
Not too sure what you’re going on about here…
The sim profiles are optimisations within the sim framework. Essentially, you try to get the highest sim number, that’s the only goal. We then use these sims in addition to our experience and judgement to make decisions on legendary choices. For instance, I don’t recommend phearomones for 2H obliteration.
Prototype pantheon will most likely be a breath play. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a boss that is so much aimed towards Breath in a long time, frost will be giga good on it with Breath.
I know what sims are looking to do, but why Phearomones? Its listed as a legendary power for both T28_Death_Knight_Frost and T28_Death_Knight_Frost_2h. I mean its free secondaries, but how often are you going to be able to be standing in your DnD and make use of it.
Field of Blossoms and Phearomones would be giving 30% haste, on top of the already 18% listed… its pushing haste to almost 50% with just that alone. But the thing about haste is its only good if you have crit when it comes to Frost. You are getting 8% crit from the 2 set.
The thing is, its going to have the same problem unholy players have in that you are at the whim of the tank or mechanics like the crystals that circle the spider boss.
So “on paper” it says one thing. The white paper isnt always right. So in order for these high RI uptimes the sim is showing, you need almost 50% haste and 30% crit and another 15% attack speed, being able to stand in your DnD and Field of Blossoms or better yet 0 movement which fights with 0 movement is like trying to find bigfoot.
When I say the white paper isnt always right, when you apply the white paper to reality and other variables that the white paper doesnt account for, it drops and can drop hard.
For instance, Elon Musks “Hyperloop”. The paper on it says one thing, but when it comes to execution within reality it doesnt work. You need expansion joints for metal when it expands and contracts through temperature differences like oil pipelines, you need air locks, you need a good vacuum system that would be taxed beyond its limits and thats not even getting into the safety of the thing.
Sims should just be a tool to get an idea of things or be able to start you down a route, not hype people up for the inevitable let down.
It gains a ton of power from adding one extra GCD in your obliteration window. The haste is sufficient to lower the GCD enough.
The duration of it is just too short to be relevant.
You are exaggerating. Phaeromones doesn’t even add that much to the RI uptime anyway? I took the liberty to compare the 2H phaeromones sim vs one that runs necrolord and no legendary.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781182889957523488/948739806735777812/unknown.png
88.79% vs 91.97% uptime at 5 stacks, 3% difference or so…
This is very much what we use sims for.
Because they don’t want frost to ever again be powerful with 2H, DW was never good from the start. Blizzard does not want Karen’s like yourself telling them off cause they got clapped by a 2H obliterate in just a few swings.
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Played it wrong, plus in Wrath, Blood was my most favorite DPS spec, I kind of wish it’d stay DPS, but the heals it had is what made it tank spec today.
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Best thing to do is to get him to ignore you. Like I have done.
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Here, a little story of how I came to LOVE 2H frost, and it never even started with frost.
Back in WotLK when DK first came out, I LOVE Blood, it was fun to play, and its self heals were awesome, I never liked unholy, even to this day, its the most boring spec in the game, its abilities are blans, playstyle is lazy, just not fun.
But in Wrath, Blood is what I mined, for that whole expansion, enjoyed it so much, that when Cata I still mined it though at the point it was a Tank spec, and it was still very fun. I got into pvp REALLY hardcore too, I did blood, though I always got called a noob for that.
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By 4.1 during that pvp season, I ran into a Frost DK with 2H, never before, not even a destro lock and those basterds hit like trucks compared to the pressure the 2H frost DK was giving me, it was not comparable, it was difficult, we won, but after that, I swapped, made a mix of Frost and Unholy, did a match, and it was over in under a minute, where with blood it lasted 3-5mins, depending on the other team.
Then came 4.3, probably the only time I ever mained Unholy cause Death Coil then had swarm on it, and it was literally killing people in 3 hits, even HPally’s, it was scary, then went back to frost in MoP, but I did miss that ONE thing about unholy before it became blan again. But those obliterates with 2H is what converted me, but before that, I went against mostly DW frost and was not threatened by them at all, hit a bit hard, but not much.
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You are using the sims to hype things up.
What are you even talking about?
DW was good from the start. Again the Frost from the very beginning wasnt like it was mid Wrath. It changed, and the best dps build was DW Frost/Unholy Hybrid.
Not to mention DW was hitting as hard as a 2h weapon using agility weapons. DW could also 1 shot people post 3.2. Whitenoise (Aihpos) was doing DW pvp and even showed himself getting a 28k on another character. It could have been set up, but people like you talk as if it couldnt crit for 3k when 2h would crit for 27k. Its just a fabrication. DW was critting just as high as 2h, and putting out more magic damage.
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I think she has, she hasn’t responded to my last few comments. But that wont work for some as they respond to her which is why I said just put her on ignore and move on about your business on the forums. Don’t let her garbage derail the thread.
I personally think it’s exciting when we see new builds showing potential etc 
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yes, yes they were.
In sims, what would it do in practice.
You know those 6m duration breaths? Even though you said there was a bug with Koltiras and didnt give a new duration that the sims were showing despite my asking… the duration on a 4m fight that you said would be the BoS fight, only had a cumulative duration of probably around 1m15sec being a 4m13sec fight and it having around a 33% uptime.
I dont see why you are trying to tell people they will be seeing this high RI uptime in game when in practice it isnt. You are basing your whole argument on a fight that doesnt really exist anymore.
The Mech Spider boss that I was talking about with the crystals, last night when I checked warcraft logs, there was only 1 frost dk that logged that fight. That fight is going to suck. Not even just from a target swap standpoint, but from having to move so much. Getting out of stuff on the ground, swapping to crystals that the tanks have to make vulnerable, boss relocation.
I just dont see how you can make the argument that its going to have high uptime and the people using the set are wrong when you just ran some patchwerk sims and are trying to say its going to be like that. Im saying even for DW, without RI on your weapon its going to feel like crap and people are going to complain about it.
You can believe whatever you want to believe, but you are trying to change history.
That’s exactly what I’m afraid of. I’m beyond tired of cd windows or afk. I don’t want even more conditional damage.
it’s easy to believe when based off facts, unlike your over opinionated statements.
Frost is performing better than unholy at the moment. Kind of strange that unholy was said to perform well until the tier set, but its around 300dps behind frost on average.
Frost is still rank one on Vigilant Guardian which is a lot of adds until the main boss comes out. They did get Power Infusion 4 times though. The thing about that is fury is number 2, only 300dps from the top log, with 0 PA’s. The next frost dk on that fight is over 1000 dps behind with only 1ilvl difference.
DK is average.
Factual statements you mean. A little research and memory refresher goes along way, which people like you refuse to do. Them rose tinted glasses do you no good.