On a target dummy? Is it simmed with movement, target swapping and standing in timeout with a debuff? I’m not arguing or claiming to know a thing but I am interested in real world play. Only one person really seems to be bringing that up.
The sims I talked about were regular 5 minute patchwork Sims.
Called it
And patchwerk fights rarely exist and if you are basing the power of 2h on fights that dont require movement, target swaps and things of that nature. My tests were on a target dummy and then applying that to even just fighting trash or things out in the world. I even said it would happen to DW as well so its not like im just crapping on 2h just to do it.
These factors will make the set feel absolutely awful. Your suggested change to the unholy set that went through… PEOPLE HATE IT. Even the person talking to Limit Max, who was Taez, the person who you said you had to ask for my other question and never did and that was just a month ago, said there is no reason to bring an unholy dk to the raid with their 4pc because other classes can do much better in execute without a 4pc boost, like warrior. So once people start getting the 4pc, unholys power is going to drop off since it doesnt really benefit the spec.
Again, ive said im done with testing, im going to gut chuckle when people put the tier set to practice and come on here complaining of how bad it is. People were doing it on the PTR forums, there is 0 reason for that not to carry over to live. Even Taez said that DW is going to drop RI stacks when going BoS, its an inevitability, but how you talk is 2h, with Obliteration, it doesnt happen.
This is what im talking about is you just wanting to hype something.
You do you fam, don’t think there’s any reasoning that can actually get through to you…
You’re right in one aspect, Unholy’s tier set isn’t very powerful. That’s unrelated to the wound requirement though, it’s simply not tuned high enough.
I felt like it played really well when I tried it out on the dummy…
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Congrats, you are content with mediocrity.
Again, ill just wait for people when they get their 4pc and they complain about it and the issues they have with it. They are already on the PTR forums and no changes happened so I dont see why live wouldnt be any different.
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You fall to realise the damage profile of obliteration again. Then majority of your damaged comes from your PoF window, which will have guaranteed RI stacks. Movement, target swapping, and mechanic downtime don’t have as big of an impact as you claim. As long as you get a clear run at the target for that 12 seconds you will be good. Yes it sucks to have RI drop outside of that window but it’s not going to ruin your overall dps.
Also you seemed to glace over the fact that
in biceps test even though 2h had a bigger variance, the bottom end dps was the same and the high end was bigger for 2h. So that tests conclusion is 2h will do same dps as DW, or it might spike higher than DW.
I would say there needs to be more testing to confirm such a claim, but if we were just going off of that test then 2h looked like it’s on good shape.
Suuuuure. We will see when people get their 4pc. Again, people were already complaining about it on the PTR with no changes to it, what makes live any different?
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For reference, here’s the simulated uptime with 2H:
It’s 90% at 5 stacks.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nb81S1toASYMA7jKwBcuUv/simc
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My DK feels so dang bad in PvP. I cant stay on people, I’m tickling people. My gear isnt great but its 31% vers and got a nice weapons. DH feels so much superior!
Folks, please stop feeding the troll. Keep feeding the stray and they’re just gonna come back for more.
Best thing to do is put her on ignore like I have done.
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Simulation… what is it in M+? What is it on boss fights?
Why does the Runeforge section list legendaries? You would have to look for Unholy Strength or another buff to see what runeforge someone is running.
Why is razorice in buffs? Shouldnt that be called debuffs under what you are attacking since its a debuff on the target?
Why the unity boots?
Think legendaries are referred to runeforges in some way in shadowlands? Like you craft them at the runeforge. I’m not sure it’s just what the SIM has named that section.
Just a convention.
That’s where we’ll put the unity legendary for the most gain.
Also noticed that I had sent the wrong link, here’s the right one:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6NKWsGxVFGMMriU5LCmZjv/simc
You realize you’ve spent literally hours now trying to convince someone who’s highest level of play is questing right?
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there isn’t, i had a multi month long argument with Kelliste a while back, when backed into a corner she will just straight up deny obvious truth and revert to one of her previous debunked arguments via circular logic. this person doesn’t understand that sticking to your guns to say that the sky is green does more harm than just admitting you are wrong.
She will never admit she is wrong. She will claim your wrong and as you have seen in this thread when people ask for her proof she refuses but has no problem demanding proof from people. Just better to put her on ignore
all 3 specs were introduced as the 2H welding hero class, hence why you couldn’t use a shield… we just figured out how to make the specs better or more fun dw’ing.
now “shut up, meg.”
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Yes this especially the last part
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No, no they werent.
You would think Runeforge for DK would refer to runeforges. To see the legendaries you would just go look at the gear.
Why is the "T28_Death_Knight_Frost using Phearomones? The one for 2h also says Phearomones… uuuuuh… what?
So the list basically says if you want to go 2h go Night Fae, get haste, lower crit work in DD for the 15% haste at the very least but also trying to get DD stacks. Oooookay then… dont think thats going to play out well at all lol. Even for DW.
The BoS log on the PTR forums, linked at the very top, shows 15.4k dps Prototype Pantheon Mythic. And thats probably with cleave as well.
Getting people hyped up over sims is just the wrong thing to do.
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