One of my favorite games ever I had to rent the bank, depository (basically the same as a hunters stable in wow but account wide), and more than a few items needed for my character to work at 100% were cash shop only. If I had to pay a sub fee AND do all that I’d have quit after the first month.
I don’t mind something here and there being tossed in the shop when it’s also available another way.
unpopular opinion incoming: I like how 14 does it with missed event items too. You want that neck glamour for your alt? $3 and it’s yours. Couldn’t play during that event and missed the cute hat? $3 and you got it.
joking… kind of…maybe… Killed the HH a couple thousand times over more than a decade and still no mount?
Insert shut up and take my money gif
Edit because forums derped my quote into the nether:
Add in that they’re giving the game (except latest expansion) away for free with a sub. No more battle chest, no more box cost to play, just $15… how much is THAT costing them a month?
So just gonna ignore this?
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Buy the game
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Pay for each expansion
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Pay monthly
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MTX
Not greedy at all uh? how long until they start selling gear? we already have character boost (which is stupidly expensive btw) and a semi p2w with the Tokens.
I want a Quail Man costume, with a head piece that is a belt tied around my forehead and a legs piece that is underwear on top of my pants.
And? The token always existed the only difference is who gets the money now. Personally I rather see it go to the IP owner then some shady back dealer. Characters boosts likely won’t even be used anymore.
Also exactly how greedy are they if they did the level squish in the first place and made it so changing your gender is now a free baseline service?
Subscription model with some sort of cashshop is just how MMo’s function now because nobody wants to pay more then $15 a month for a subscription. Which is what it takes to keep the same level of profits. Greed? Maybe, but again this is a business literally everything a business does is from greed. What do you want…them to not make money their literal only reason to exist? If i was them and my profits was going down and wasn’t allowed to find other avenued to get the same level of profits. That is when I would close the game down or put it in maintence mode.
It’s a business, you have to remember what their goal is here. It’s no more greed then the price of tomatoes going up at your store.
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Right? I mean honestly pets and mounts are just cosmetics anyway, so why not some armor transmogs as well?
I don’t see any difference.
Someone earlier was trying to say battle pets are not cosmetic… I can’t even begin to understand how people can think the pokemon mini game is anything more then a cosmetic thing.
Square enix CEO took a 60% paycut so that his employees didn’t get laid off. Theres a reason mtx isn’t hated nearly as much there vs here.
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Thats the one reason Tokens arent has bad
People buying them are either beyond lazy or getting scammed
Anyway, if they wanna keep Transmogs then they better stop being lazy with the sets ingame, cause look at freaking BFA, it was incredibly poor with transmogs, specially considering its previous expansion
Because no one is saying a fairy outfit is p2w. Also pets released in the shop are significantly stronger than the ones you can obtain in game. Just because its not a core part of the game doesn’t mean they don’t intrinsically sell power in the shop.
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Eh, I mean you can get some XP with it and buy some toys and stuff but it’s really minor in terms of what you can do in other places in the game.
If that’s “P2W” at all, it’s a very minor version of it.
I couldn’t imagine too many people using pets as a way to experience the ENTIRE game. There may be a few crazies that have done it as a goof, but that’s not something the masses would try.
I think the resolutions and such are going up. Not in beta so I can’t tell. However it wouldn’t be the first time they released a higher res item prior to a expansion release because it’s using the upgraded art models.
They also need to slow down with the mounts, how many have they released in this expansion? like 8+?
I don’t know how I feel about that. Personally I think it’s kind of cool that they give something special to the people that have already been subbed for a 6 month period. People keep asking for them to give people something for being loyal. I think that is kind of what those mounts are suppose to be.
How bout some rewards, where you have to PvP during certain holidays. 
Have a witch hunt during October… Killing mages, and warlocks can get you a mount… This mount is just a horse head on a stick that makes sounds of two coconuts being beat together.
Comes with the achievement. “Wood floats on water, as do ducks”
?? ESO is a F2P game. That’s why you get currency every month, they have to sweeten the pot to get people to subscribe. WoW is not a F2P game. They don’t have to sweeten the pot to keep you subscribed, because you can’t play the game fully without a subscription.
As for the OP? I am all for more cosmetics added to the cash shop. FFXIV does this already, I don’t see why Blizzard should not tap into the market of players that want said cosmetics.
ESO’s sub is optional and FF14 is mediocre.
Your point OP?
Already made it. Re-read my post.
And I half-heartedly refuted it.
Rhetorical questions my friend. 