Dazar'alor is revenge for Teldrassil

Darrethy-wyrmrest-accord · February 23, 2019, 5:48pm

I mean yeah, I rarely engage in serious discussion with you because you do things like claim I go out of my way to defend Treng.

Which is like, beyond absurdity.

Resileaf-ravenholdt · February 23, 2019, 5:48pm

I don’t care about Silvermoon. I care about Darkshore and Ashenvale.
Just wipe out every Horde settlement and base in those zones and have the trees eat every Horde citizen and keep the forest for the Night elves, and the rest doesn’t matter.

Syaeles-moon-guard · February 23, 2019, 5:49pm

Lordaeron is one city that was completely evacuated.

Teldrassil is bottom line two villages and a city and that’s only counting Night Elves. Teldrassil was it’s own biome with it’s own ecosystem of plant and wildlife.

You cant accurately count how many Night Elves were burned alive but it was leaps and bounds a greater number than the soldiers lost at Lordaeron.

What matters is the implications that the event had on the story as if it were an actual world. Not how important it is to you, Treng.

Lithya-sargeras · February 23, 2019, 5:50pm

Watch out he is gonna search how many people are using Teldrassil for RP in his server right now.
Then show it to you!

Akiyass-moon-guard · February 23, 2019, 5:50pm

Looks up at the rest of the thread

uh huh

The saddest thing for me is My guild and I actually used Teldrassil a lot. I had my Hearthstone set to Darnassus.

Darrethy-wyrmrest-accord · February 23, 2019, 5:51pm

The problem is that thusfar that event hasn’t really had an impact on the world save the fact that it made the Alliance actively stronger.

Darrethy-wyrmrest-accord · February 23, 2019, 5:52pm

Aki we’ve been over this.

It’s because I think you’re wrong, and your opinions are bad. Now we have multiple other people whose opinions and both wrong and bad, thus against my will, I must now defend the Honor Horde.

There is no one save yourself to blame.

Resileaf-ravenholdt · February 23, 2019, 5:52pm

There is not a single event in this game that has had a real impact on the world.

Akiyass-moon-guard · February 23, 2019, 5:52pm

The irony.

Darrethy-wyrmrest-accord · February 23, 2019, 5:53pm

I’m speaking of the world from a narrative standpoint, not like zone phasing.

Lithya-sargeras · February 23, 2019, 5:54pm

Teldrassil was the first place I saw when I first found out about WoW.
First place I also made my character and engaged with WoW.

Always found Darkshore a bit too gloomy for my taste. Hence my preference for Ashenvale and Teldrassil. Was kind of disappointed that the Horde had such a heavy presence there.

Cataclysm was just putting more salt into the wound and BFA is like pissing on the wound.

Resileaf-ravenholdt · February 23, 2019, 5:54pm

So am I.
Things happen because Blizzard decides they happen. Not because of any kind of logical cause and effect story progression.

Linoradrin-wyrmrest-accord · February 23, 2019, 5:56pm

Oh god, not again.

Etheldald-ragnaros · February 23, 2019, 5:56pm

so basically is
“horde players don’t care about alliance cities or characters and viceversa”

is this correct? then why are we even arguing?

Treng-wyrmrest-accord · February 23, 2019, 5:56pm

???

So, let me get this straight. You’ve regularly stated that I am of the opinion that only my opinion matters. Then you go and tell me that only your opinion matters.

Alright. Well, let’s play your game. “How this effects the story.”

No night elf of importance was lost besides Delaryn, who did not exist until BFA.
Malfurion ceases being neutral, becoming fully Alliance.
Sylvanas fractures the Horde by mass murdering, damning, and enslaving its soldiers.
Sylvanas fractures the Horde with her argument with Saurfang.
Sylvanas further fractures the Horde by showing Baine her cards and callous disregard for the Horde.
Sylvanas wastes canonically absolutely valuable azerite weaponry defending a city she plans to lose on purpose.

So, you’re stone cold wrong. And this is even without me going into what she does that’s messed up after Lordaeron.

Lithya-sargeras · February 23, 2019, 5:57pm

To prove they are right and “win” the argument.
Is this your first time debating Treng and Darrenthy? The Dynamic Duo of the story forums?

Darrethy-wyrmrest-accord · February 23, 2019, 5:58pm

I’m gonna have to completely disagree on this one, the Night Warrior is unlikely to have been a thing that would be given to Night Elves if they had been untouched by the start of the expansion. The Devs are on record as trying to ‘balance’ the bad things that happen between races.

The problem is that the bad thing that happened to Night Elves was largely immaterial save the loss of the capital city itself, but because they were subject to a genocide from a narrative standpont the writers had to put in something to compensate the fanbase, thus you get this even though it doesn’t really feel like the Horde took that much away from the race.

Resileaf-ravenholdt · February 23, 2019, 6:00pm

And the Night warrior does absolutely nothing. Tyrande is not visibly stronger and aside from killing a single Val’kyr, does nothing of particular importance.

Lithya-sargeras · February 23, 2019, 6:00pm

Hm… please explain how the Horde could possibly take more from the race?
Take their faction leaders? In the history of WoW no Alliance Racial leader character has killed Horde Racial Leader.

Even Rastabro was still not official a member of the Horde.

Syaeles-moon-guard · February 23, 2019, 6:00pm

Didn’t take that much from the race? Do you not understand what a genocide is? You shouldn’t use words you don’t understand the meaning of.