Fascinating read! Thank you for sharing!
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Absolutely, especially Hir’eek his in game model looked amazing.
Killing Hir’eek broke my heart, I was really hoping we’d see him and Vol’Jin and Shadra again during the Heritage quest but for some reason they were just left out all together.
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It’s glaringly obvious the signs are everywhere that whoever wrote the quests didn’t even bother to get caught up on all the most recent story lines from BFA and Shadowlands they likely just quickly skimmed whatever they had time to.
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I’d trade Jani for Hir’eek in a heartbeat I don’t care if he started working with G’huun, I killed him for it, we’re square now I just want him back he’s one of us.
I’ve been super into the jungle troll loa since I first learned about them in Zul’Gurub. I waited a long time to meet Hir’eek, and I killed him in my first encounter. And this is my second encounter with Shadra, and the second time I watched her die. There was a time in BfA where we weren’t sure if the way in which Hir’eek and Shadra died meant they were permanently dead or not, which really didn’t feel great. Luckily they are being revived someday, so at least there’s that.
But I’m really sad that the Darkspear don’t worship them anymore. I was fully under the impression that the Darkspear still worshiped the Gurubashi loa, as well as the Shadowhunter Loa, and druids also worshiped Gonk.
I mean, loa worship is a major part of troll cultural identity, and learning that the Darkspear just stopped it doing for some reason is too big a deal to just learn about it the way we did with no real explanation for when and why that happened.
I also thought our offerings were kind of pathetic in the quest, but Echo Isles is pathetic so having some decent shrines would be a bit of a stretch for us.
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They should be, Vol’Jin had no problems communicating with them, why shouldn’t other Shadow hunters be able to do it.
Besides if Darkspears didn’t follow any of the Gurubashi Pantheon, and additionally they dropped their worship of Bwonsamdi until they got their islands back.
Then from whom Darkspear shadowhunters drew their powers from between Vanilla -start of Cataclym?!
How they managed to train other Shadow-Hunters in that period? Based on what?!
This is just bollocks, and I refuse to believe it.
You know what would be great? To Have Ogoun who is Loa of War and Loa of Smiths, and under his trial craft a glaive…
But there is no blacksmith on Echo Isles >:/
No forge, no anvil no tools. Nothing.
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I’ve been under the same impression too, not sure why they’d take it in that direction quite frankly I find it lame and a bit of a retcon, they just kinda glossed over it too like it was no big deal.
I would have loved this, despite not knowing much about Ogoun due to his ingame absence as a Warrior I always considered him one of my personal Loa along with Bwonsamdi to always get me out of these near death situations lol.
Hey for everybody in here, does anyone have the Symbol of Gral toy? it’s a BFA toy that possibly has some kind of secret in game thing that may only work if lots of players get together that have it. This is based on a series of in game item tips and lore and quest bread crumbs that make for an interesting case for a secret thing. Does anyone here have it? I’ve got 3 people already. It’s related to the Shark Loa Gral and you buy it in Nazjatar.
There’s a ruined sunken shrine to Gral in Zuldazar with a chum offering bowl and a bunch of statues that turn you into sharks that I think are related to the secret.
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I like Jani but yeah trading out an actual Darkspear Loa for a Zandalari one wasn’t on my bingo card.
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I’m just confused about what happened to Ogoun and Shango, we were exploring our Lost and abandoned Loa and absolutely no mention of our actual Darkspear Loas? Except for Lukou of course.
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Nah, theres a clear difference between a character of a culture that disrespects it and just not doing that. I know these circles and its all about erasure and homogenous instead of celebrating the differences
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To be fair, these were RPG Loas, and RPG content was deemed non-canon. But Shango was mentioned via some spell names and abilities. And Ogoun not at all.
But if they did pick those Loas and did them justice, Darkspears would get something really cool and distinct.
And imagine if Shango was Troll genie. Wouldn’t that be great? Heck I even checked and warfraft genies do have 3 fingers!
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Troll Genie would be hardcore, especially since he’s the Loa of storms. I always figured as a Warrior that’s where my Thunderclap came from but apparently I never had any Loa according to the Heritage quest so idk what to think anymore lol.
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i think it looks pretty nice, the only thing making me go ‘wtf’ is that the weapon mog is a sword and not a spear
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A Darkspear would have been appropriate or a Glaive, we’ve been requesting glaives for like 12 years or more now. They didn’t think any of this through.
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I’d be happy to just take whatever we can get if Troll content weren’t so rare and the story and the set weren’t both so bad with literally nothing new for Trolls in sight it’s a little devastating.
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Trolls are damned if they do and if they don’t. If they get a content it’s mostly about them getting beaten up. And when they don’t they stagnate and are irrelevant.
At this point if they’re struggling so bad to push out quality content they should just take fan volunteer ideas and tweak them slightly because they clearly lack the funds and employee power to put out quality work.
I have plenty of ideas. It’s really not that hard to give spotlight to neglected races and make it fun. Devs chose not to do it becuase they have their favourites.
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I want to chalk it up to laziness but sometimes it really does feel like it would have been so easy to do a good job and they still just throw something crummy out there that took just as much effort as something good. It really boggles my mind, I don’t want to think they’re doing a bad job on Troll stuff on purpose but it does kind of look that way.
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