I just went thru the process of installing Overwolf last night on new drive. First you install Overwolf, this is the platform. Then it scans for games that you have installed and shows you apps related to that game. In my case I then installed Curseforge and WoW logs. Then configure them so that when you exit either of them, it shuts down the Overwolf platform and you are done.
Wrong. You have the option, but apparently you decided not to read and downloaded everything instead.
No one is shilling.
It’s the only thing that can be used once the API is gone. We knew this. We all raged about it a while back. Maybe you should do some searching for all of those posts before you cry that people are shilling.
Using something for two minutes and giving information about that experience isn’t shilling. Maybe learn what shilling means.
No. It’s their work. They literally work on these for themselves and for others. People like you expect them to do it on crappy websites and with no recognition as if they’re monks that can only give freely in the most pious ways.
It’s absolutely not like that. Artists don’t have to update their art and make sure it works every patch or others complain and get mad. Artists create a static image. Addons are constantly needing updates and changes.
It’s a corporation. Maybe learn how corporations work.
Sure thing. I’ll believe you over those that actually make them.
Proof positive you don’t know what you’re talking about, considering ads existed on Curse’s website over a decade ago. And guess what? Back then, there was a risk of malware. Just from the website. Way before Overwolf owned them. But we’ll ignore that, won’t we?
Nothing I said was false. There’s no malware that myself, nor anyone else I’ve known has gotten from this app. The ad is so unobtrusive that I didn’t even know it existed and it rarely actually shows up.
Pleas tell me what addon I’m paying for. I’ll wait.
No. There’s a choice of other software. People don’t read and install everything.
There’s one in the lower corner and it rarely ever loads.
Nope, you don’t have the option to just download Curseforge. :3
You’re the one that’s been doing that all this thread, about all the issues in regards to Overwolf.
You are, many of the devs that get money from it again do. :3
Mm, nope? Wowup will still work, since most addons are up on github or other alternatives like Wago.
Made threads about Overwolf and how bad they are, and how no one should use their app even when they try to restrict the others? Yes, I’m aware. I made a post about it. I even pointed out all the bad things they’ve done previously and why it’s a bad company to have anything to do with.
Defending something you clearly don’t really know much about for the sake of defending it, is shilling.
No, it’s a free addon (Required by Blizzard to be) that people decided they wanted to make so it would fix certain things in game they wanted and then uploaded in various areas.
Just like everyone else, I expect someone to work for a living if they want money. IE, to get a job.
It is, actually.
Neither do addon devs, they can choose to or not to.
Usually a couple patches every expansion, if that.
The addon devs aren’t, also check out github. Basically all the addons are there, and they don’t do half the things Overwolf are doing as well as other websites. :3
Maybe learn not all ‘corporations’ or hosting websites operate the same?
I’ve made one, and I lived with someone that made more than one.
Ads, sure? How much of that went to addon devs back then? :3 Do you have any stats present for how much addon devs were getting paid in 2005-2008 compared to now? :3
Got any cites, news articles for that? Plus, very easy to use adblocker even back then. I know I had one.
Like you’re ignoring all the stuff about Overwolf that’s not 15 or so years ago, and say in the last 5 years? :3
Already disproved a bunch of your stuff as false, and then by replying to me you proved yourself to lie, and to make false statements like “Goodbye forever, ignored forever, won’t ever talk to you again” ;3
*please, and you said no player is paying for addons. Not you. :3
RestedXP, TSM, Zygor, Warcraftlogs, Raidbots, etc.
Plus, you made claim that ads are monetization for addons and… by blizzard rules… “or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.” that violates it, by your own admission if they require ads. :3
I’m inclined to think you’re on the wrong side of this argument just because of your condescending use of “:3” faces. But also because you don’t really seem to be explaining anything other than just repeating “nope, you’re wrong” with every line you try to refute.
Then you should probably go find some other interactions I’ve had with said poster and why they’re getting that treatment, since they’re doing the same to me in being smarmy.
Kinda like they did, and you’re doing here? Curious. “I don’t like you using :3 so you must be incorrect.” They told me to “Go do research” or “Go read overwolf threads” when they know I made one a while back~ So, since you haven’t pointed towards anything in your post and this is your first post in said topic… Why don’t you take your own advice instead of being another ‘rules for thee but not for me’ type? :3
I’ll throw you a bone, though.
" Addon devs did say if there were issues that they would move off from it, but given six months ago it had quite a big security issue: https://swordbytes.com/blog/security-advisory-overwolf-1-click-remote-code-execution-cve-2021-33501/ which took them quite a while to be able to fix meanwhile leaving people that were using it quite open to attacks."
“Overwolf also has a long loooong history of shady practices including data mining and targeted advertising. Some examples from their website: Overwolf merges ad experience with positive gaming experience. We use smart ad placement and timing to reach buyers’ KPIs. Ads are shown while users wait for the game to load or while they browse team stats.”
An article showing Overwolf harvests your data for targeted ads: https://news.softpedia.com/news/overwolf-software-bundled-with-teamspeak-harvesting-user-data-for-targeted-ads-528693.shtml
“When you download our client and/or register, we collect Personal Data provided by you, such as your username, email address and profile picture. If you register through a third party log-in/ account registration service (such as Facebook, Gmail, etc.), we collect your basic profile information from such third-party log-in/account registration service and your profile picture.
We also collect Personal Data when you use the Services, such as games you played, language preference, referring site, pages viewed and the order of those pages etc, or contact us with questions or complaints. When you visit our Site and/or use the Services, we automatically collect your IP address, operating system, connected device, hardware details and other information about your use of the Site and/or Services. We can receive aggregated data containing impressions, revenue, video stats, as well as confirmation of user completions.”
“We share the Personal Data we collect with our service providers and subcontractors who assist us in the operation of the Services and process the information on our behalf and under our instructions, as well as with our business partners and affiliates who may offer you products and services, based on your preferences (if you indicate your desire to receive these).”
The data from your initial account creation, and first login through the app however are not protected from their sales. Though of course the whole data stuff isn’t the only concern, given the history of the Teamspeak overlay security issues and than the most recent one six months ago*(Copy pasted from other post, so that timeline is off by a year or so now.) which is the main one since they took over after Twitch for WoW addons. which is why it’s not initially all off, so either way they do get at least some data on you no matter how you go about it.
Shhh, don’t come at us with those sorts of facts. People with special colors said that was proven to be false, and everyone knows special colors > facts.
Yes. You do. At least two people have explained this. You’re choosing to ignore it.
Ah, yes. The usual “NO U” argument from people.
Nothing I’ve said is remotely shilling. You just want to use it as some form of bad faith argument because you have nothing of substance to add.
I never said it wouldn’t work for some addons. I said it will be the only thing we can use once the API is gone, because of the fact that many are hosted only on Curse. But we’ll skip over the comments that have the details, just so you can pretend to be right, hmm?
Yep. And many agreed. And many of us were upset— me included. But when half my addons are only on Curse, I’ll use it for two minutes and ignore its existence the rest of the time.
Giving information about how it works isn’t defending anything. Giving logical information on how corporations work isn’t defending anything. Giving facts of experience isn’t not knowing anything.
Learn real definitions instead of ones you make up.
One they worked on. Thus, their work.
Literally no one has claimed this is their job.
Just because someone creates something and it’s their work doesn’t mean it’s their living. It’s something they choose to do and they choose to get a bit of recognition for and use a website with the tools they like.
You want them to give that all up because “CORPORATE BAD.”
I love the explanation you have. Thanks for such wonderful insight.
Wrong again. Big Wigs, Details, Healbot, Dominos, TRP3, etc. all update quite frequently. Transmog ones go through a huge process to update, because of so much information.
What you quoted wasn’t even talking about the creators.
Grats. You still don’t have a clue what others like and do, as evident by your inability to back up anything you’ve said.
“I don’t need to back up my claims, but I expect you to come up with all of the old forum posts that got deleted for proof!”
Typical.
I didn’t ignore anything. I only addressed thenfaose information given based off of our experiences around here.
No you didn’t. All you said was “wrong” with zero evidence to anything. Laughable.
All can be used for free. Premium features are paid for use on the website, not the in game addon. And it’s not a requirement to download the addon.
As usual, nothing of value to add here.
I’ll wait for your “rules for thee” and “I know you are but what am I” usual responses.
Oh wait. No I won’t. You came in here to be incendiary as usual and consistently pick fights. Back onto ignore for your toxicity.
Ah, making it personal because you have no argument. You do this to everyone in every thread you’re in.
I explained myself. You just came in to start a fight as usual.
Your toxicity is where every thread devolves, because you consistently make it personal and have to pick fights just to belittle others.
I thought I’d give you a chance and took you off of ignore. You just proved you belong there for good.
No, you don’t. It comes with Overwolf, it requires Overwolf to run.
Pointing out that you’ve been shilling for them in this thread, and old threads?
Hahaha. Proven wrong again.
Kinda is, actually.
That’s more your forte not mine. You haven’t added anything of substance in any of your posts here, and in fact spread misinformation.
How many, exactly? Any source for ‘many addons only on curse’?
Ah, so you want us to skip over all the other comments proving you wrong so you can pretend to be right, hmm? :3
Old posts say otherwise, to be quite honest. You’ve been defending them since 2020.
It is when you’re denying all other information, and spreading misinformation about said app.
Defending a practice because it’s ‘normalized’ in some culture is indeed defending it, it’s kinda like the people that defend the use of using certain slurs because it was ‘in the culture’ there. It’d be like Blizzard defending the behavior of the people through the lawsuit because it was the companies ‘frat boy culture’ at the time. :3
I worked on writing this post, can I put ads on my forum posts and force everyone to view them so it’s monetized? Your argument, not mine.
You just gave that stance that it technically is because they ‘put work’ into it so they deserve financial compensation.
I love the explanation you have. Thanks for such wonderful insight
For extra downloads in most cases, to get more funds I’m aware. However said addons still work even if you don’t update them, and usually addons only tend to break when big changes are introduced to game files. :3
You mean like you haven’t linked to anything, or backed up any of your claims in your posts whereas I did? Hmm.
I’ve found all the posts from 2020, they’re still up. :3
Seems
You did, actually. Continually since 2020.
Seems that is more your forte.
Not exactly.
That’s incorrect, anything for rested xp and Zygor require payment to use. Warcraftlogs is an in-game addon and allows you to upload directly from ingame ONLY if you have premium so that’s not just ‘third party stuff’ and Overwolf has Overlays for Warcraftlogs. Woops!
Stop talking to yourself~
You mean like you always do, despite said people ‘being on ignore’ and ‘you won’t ever talk to them again’?
You mean like you always do, and the fact you took my posts into your discord because you took my posts personal? :3
Wasn’t toxic, you were toxic towards people in this thread calling every post ‘misinformation’ if they said something negative about Overwolf.
It seems you go back and forth on your stance too, which tells me that you just choose to be contrarian on a whim and go against others as your mood changes and depending on who posts what.
I’ll also throw in Overwolfs admission to their in-game advertisements
blizz supports curseforge and wowhead some of the most trashiest places to get stuff for wow. should i have to pay for like wowhead or use curseforge cause you don’t want to make things for your own games or have real info out there for people. you make plenty of money and you make sure to have this known yet you do nothing for your own game good job blizz. i will say wowhead is a little better than what it used to be but it was so add riddled i used to laugh. do your damn job blizz and make your own stuff for this game cause you sure never used any money on shadowlands the worst expansion ever.