Covenant Abilities should be a new talent row

Sacrodruid-frostmourne · June 30, 2020, 10:37am

It would be really nice to have talents rows for each expansion instead of borrowed power.

Aerîth-tichondrius · June 30, 2020, 10:43am

Completely agree.

Covenants should only affect aesthetics/cosmetics (xmogs, pets mounts etc).
But NOT combat abilities.

Then I really don’t mind being locked in to one.
If I wanted all mogs, then I’d just roll another covenant on my alt, since it won’t affect combat in pve/pvp.

Yesuna-wyrmrest-accord · June 30, 2020, 10:54am

You guys really should drop that trendy term. There have been changes to abilities and talents for many expansions now.

Zoumz-zuljin · June 30, 2020, 11:10am

But never as much since Legion, before we atleast had classes and before wod they were not pruned as Wod and BFA both did.

Yesuna-wyrmrest-accord · June 30, 2020, 11:13am

That’s what happens when Blizzard listens to people steady complain on the forum. For years people cried about overly complex classes and specs, now look what we have. We’d be in better shape if Blizzard stopped listening to players.

Zoumz-zuljin · June 30, 2020, 11:16am

There are many good ideas on the forum, blaming the forums doesn’t serve anyone. What are you here for there if you don’t think the forums have a use? Just to discourage people? You’re funny. It’s up to Blizzard to make a good game, we are not the developpers we can only give feedback.

Acaliice-skywall · June 30, 2020, 11:17am

I agree with all of this. This is not a meaningful choice by any means, and punishing players by forcing them to create four of whatever they want to play if they want to be helpful is literally awful.

Mafic-emerald-dream · June 30, 2020, 11:35am

Good post you are a valued member of the community. +1

Valanth-malganis · June 30, 2020, 11:35am

People look back all the time. The old talent trees are still better than what we currently have

Koriolis-dalaran · June 30, 2020, 11:38am

Are they though? The old trees were filled with almost useless filler garbage talents (+1% damage with X) to get to the juicy stuff.

Personally I liked the Cata talent tree. Just not being locked to one until you filled it.

Wild-velen · June 30, 2020, 11:39am

Just a friendly little reminder that you can have multiple characters in different covenants! Please don’t feel trapped. I’m putting this cutie in the Night Fae and my other cuties in the other covenants just so I can experience them all.

I don’t think that the covenant abilities are going to make or break the game for us tbh. Looking at these abilities, you could probably get the same power change from “worst” to “best” covenant ability by getting a piece with a socket.

Zoumz-zuljin · June 30, 2020, 11:42am

The problem is not the exclusiveness but the power being attached to it, you can’t have both if you want the game to feel modern and players to feel good with because they won’t feel pigeonholed. Moreover we already know you will be able to switch, the question is more how bad it will be.

Izzabelle-draka · June 30, 2020, 11:43am

Why do I have this awful feeling, if Blizzard was to put them into a talent row, They would make it a special row that could only be changed once a day, in either Orgrimmar, or Stormwind. Plus you would have to have a special currency in order to change it.

Zoumz-zuljin · June 30, 2020, 11:44am

Being able to change once a day would already be a good compromise atleast for me. Atleast you could decide which day you raid, which day you do pvp and which day you do m+ and feel optimal while doing all of those. Anything higher than that then I have a problem with it.

Puriphyllia-sargeras-1022168 · June 30, 2020, 5:59pm

Where is the meaningful choice? It is literally a question of “Which fun do you not want?” for anyone who enjoys doing the highest levels of content.

Aveldruid-frostmourne · June 30, 2020, 10:17pm

Now look what we have? An expansion where “unpruning” is a buzz word and a dev gets called “the pruner”. Taking out or adding things is blizzards decision. The forums just throw ideas out there for them to consider. Well mostly we complain about Raider IO etc but sometimes we throw ideas around.

Tjphess-zuljin · June 30, 2020, 10:38pm

unironically thinking blizzard listens to their players

yea i guess they are listening to their players when account wide essences arrived 8 months too late huh?

classic yesuna

Timbaeslice-frostmourne · June 30, 2020, 10:40pm

No idea what on earth you’re on about honestly.

In Vanilla there was a “bis talents for pve” and a “bis talents for pvp”. Gamers will always pick the most optimal for the content they want to do. Just because 1% of the playerbase didn’t care and picked stun % on a firemage for PvE doesn’t mean it was a good system.

God you actually managed to make me grit my teeth in real life, this would be the most Blizzard 101 play of all time.

Listen nobody wanted account wide essences okay this is a RPG ROLE PLAYING GAME. I’d rather we not dumb down the game for those LAZY to do content. Nobody wanted them except for all the people who wanted them and now celebrate having access to their best corruptions.

Timbowoslice-frostmourne · June 30, 2020, 10:52pm

When it comes down to it, I’m going to have four shamans ready to go for Shadowlands so I won’t lose out regardless. Please saying that I just want the easy way make me laugh.

I’m not going to be one of the people fleeing the game if such a player unfriendly system gets through. It’s going to be everyone else who gets punished, and we’re going to all need to play with the ramifications of huge player exodus.

Timbroslice-barthilas · June 30, 2020, 10:52pm

Some people like myself have been doomsday prepping for a while, as you can see. Worst case scenario with Blizzard.