Continuation of New Customisation Options for: Void Elves, Blood Elves, & misc high elves

Do it. Go get your 3.0 3.5 and 5e manuals. You’ll also notice that paladins are able to use negative energy and not just radiant. And that paladins aren’t limited to one faith to draw their power from.

And I’m saying the waters are muddled enough that blizzard should let that go because jumping through figurative hoops to justify adding new paladins is becoming increasingly tedious. Just calling them a warrior of faith better defines them now and would open up other races to getting paladins.

Paladins wielding a different source of energy goes against what a Paladin currently is. In other words, it’s a retcon.

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Yes, it is. :face_with_monocle:

I’m literally saying they should change it. A retcon. Yes.

Right off the bat, anti-paladins aren’t in 5e.

Other than that, anti-paladins are consistently described as being the antithesis of a paladin.

The fact that someone can say she’s an anti-paladin and you know what means pretty clearly shows how they’re not the same thing.

And you’ll notice that WoW isn’t DnD.

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I agree and disagree with this statement, the Naaru are beings of pure light, but they can be corrupted and be turned into the void ( L’ura, K’ara, M’uru, etc… many dark Naaru), so the same principle could affect to void elf paladins, they could embrace the corrupt power of the void as the light itself can be corrupted by it and wield it for their cause. But also, they can use the light with the void at the same time, just like Sally Whitemane use the light being a DK using death magic (being opposite forces), void elves could use the light being void corrupted beings. There are many ways to make void elves paladin work without changing the existing lore (and BTW, Blizzard dont give a dime about the existing lore, they change it every new expansion just as they see it convenient for the new plot, you can see how the lore contradicts itself because of that)

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Oathbreaker, Treachery, Conquest

Tyrant Velhari is a boss encounter in the Hellfire Citadel in Tanaan Jungle. She was once a promising vindicator, but has turned to Shadow.

The concept for this boss began with a simple idea: anti-paladin, or “dark vindicator.” What would a corrupted version of a draenei vindicator fight like? Many of Velhari’s abilities are a play on core Paladin mechanics such as (Un)holy Power builders and spenders, auras, and Guardians of Ancient Kings, with each of the three phases having a theme that parallels one of the Paladin class specializations.

Shes a paladin.

Also calling WoW not D&D they sure steal a lot from it.

Shadowlands - Shadowfell
Emerald Dream - Feywild
Elemental Lords - Elemental Planes
ALL of their class designs.
ALL of their core races minus forsaken.

WoW is D&D just butchered.

We are even getting a freaking castle ravenholdt raid as our first raid in the Shadowlands/Shadowfell. Come on.

Doesn’t mean it’s the same thing.

“What would a corrupted version of a draenei vindicator fight like?”
Notice the word “corrupted”? It’s not the same thing.

Cenarius didn’t cease being Cenarius the demigod when he was corrupted. Neither did any of the other wild gods suddenly lose their Wild God abilities or statuses. A vindicator is predominantly a title given to draenei paladins, shes a “dark vindicator.” Shes a paladin. Especially given all the abilities she uses that are clear parallels to typical paladins.

I’m not trying to start a flame war here.

I’m FOR retconning the definition of Paladin to a warrior of faith. Moving away from the standard definition that has been used since WC2. It’s outdated and even Blizzard is using gymnastics to justify other races becoming paladins. Just retcon the definition and its fine.

We will have differing opinions on this Somand and Grabbag. I offer to offense or ill will to either of you. I’m not going to try to change your minds on this subject. Just stating an easy solution for blizz to move forward. I’ll cease commenting on this subject at this point. :heart:

I’m here for blood elf void elf customizations and I want them NOW.

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Darion Mograine didn’t cease being Darion Mograine when he was corrupted. He did switch from being a Paladin to being a Death Knight though.

“Let’s expand on the Tauren worship of the sun to have them wield the Light” is less of a stretch to me than “Let’s redefine how Paladins work”.

Don’t worry, I intend no ill will either.

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So being in the beta and having the PTR to be able to play with character customization. I’m very disheartened at how little blood elves have received compared to night elves, tauren, orcs, trolls, dwarves, humans… it’s… depressing

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They pull their power from the Light. Whether they “worship” the light is not terribly important.

For her stuff to work like that, they’d need a new spec. Not really sure it fits current paladins. Lore or otherwise.

Yeah it is.

They Worship An’she and get Light powers from them. It’s one step of difference and only allegedly so, since An’she has never spoken.

I don’t think blizz has done this at all.

They have one step of separation from the Light through beings that channel it.

I swear I’m having deja vu of someone trying to argue game mechanics from a wholly different game to justify something in wow.

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Disagree. But I’m not getting into it anymore. :blush:

No doubt. The others disagree with you.

That is kinda implied.

Just sharing my opinion on those matters.

No ill will here.

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And when did I say otherwise? They worship the sun, but they don’t worship the light, it’s as simply as that, they wield the power of the light, but they don’t follow it’s path, just like blood elves or trolls.

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Belfs do worship the light at current. They also had before. They had a few years where they did not worship but stole it.

This is the important factor. A Void wielding Paladin would not wield the power of the Light. They’d wield the Void, which is completely different.

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Exactly. They’d need to add a “shadow” spec to Pallies for that to work.

And that would… Probably be hard on the lore. Lol

That’s pretty much DKs.

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