Fact is more people will unsub if RDF is not added than the latter. Seeing all the back lash on Reddit, twitter, these forums and other wow media sites shows the majority of the classic player base wants RDF in wrath. I think most of us understood why they kept it out of Classic and TBC Classic and accepted it. However, we quickly realized how useful the tool is and were eagerly waiting for Wrath for this feature only to be slapped in the face with some BS on why they are not adding it. The sweats that do not want RDF will play Wrath regardless. I guess Blizz is okay taking a hit in their pocket books.
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I need RDF so i can ninja items for shards. good income stream for healer players. Add it in
I guess we should cater to the toxic players so they are not tempted to ninja…
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Prove it. Where did you get this “fact”? I seem to remember that the sub count trended upward and stable before it was implemented and trended downward and unstable afterwards.
You literally couldn’t, they added loot type restrictions to rdf so you cant roll on stuff that your class doesn’t use and the disenchant button gets superceded by other need rolls. Good job showing your ignorance.
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This already exists in current tbc as tanks and heals often only go if they get non-upgrade drops for de. Nothing stops you from continuing this even without RDF.
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the fact is there homie u just gotta look at the polls. more want its right there
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Sub count trend over ten years ago had nothing to do with RDF…And if you look at the state of classic sub counts right now it is not trending upward…
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You say that, but in my experience, almost anyone who dislikes Retail names dungeon finder as one of the major changes that killed WoW for them. It didn’t turn WoW into Retail alone, but it was one of the deciding forces for sure.
I haven’t really paid too much attention to the global player stats you could glean from sites like IF.pro so I can only take your word on that. Though it was quite promising when the last official word we got on sub count during a quarterly report was that subs literally quadrupled when Classic was released. /shrug
Lol yes, when it “released”, year later its dead, soms dead bc is dying/dead, wrath is doa
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Hahahaha
Honestly, after nearly two decades of people saying this about WoW, it just gets funnier and funnier. Wrath will be quite fine.
You say that, but in my experience, almost anyone who dislikes Retail names dungeon finder as one of the major changes that killed WoW for them. It didn’t turn WoW into Retail alone, but it was one of the deciding forces for sure.
“in your experience”… okay??? I guess we have different experiences and I have played this game for awhile including mythic raiding. I believe it was LFR that was the deciding force and nobody is asking for it.
I haven’t really paid too much attention to the global player stats you could glean from sites like IF.pro so I can only take your word on that. Though it was quite promising when the last official word we got on sub count during a quarterly report was that subs literally quadrupled when Classic was released. /shrug
When Classic first launched yes subs skyrocketed, but today it is nowhere near when classic first launched. And like I said most of us, if not all, didn’t mind not having RDF when we began the Classic journey. However, (in my experience and my guild mates) we quickly realized how useful the RDF can be. We understood this was not feature in the original wow or tbc so we didn’t expect it to be added. However, RDF was added in Wrath, eagerly waiting for it, and as you can see most of us were hoping for it sooner than later.
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I used to think the sameway, but when all versions of the game are dead or dying its hard to back it, especially when the devs make stupid decisions like this one
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To be fair if he’s a healer and rolls need on dps gear, plenty of people would view that as ninjaing if a dps rolled need as well. Then once the blue is in your backpack, you just d/e if you were an enchanter. You can also roll need on items you already have and d/e them.
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Of course! In case you haven’t noticed, this entire discussion is happening within the confines of “in our experience”. 
Unless you have some actual, unbiased statistics to show me?
I’ve played for a long time too. And I’d agree, LFR is one of the big ones too. LFR and dungeon finder are certainly top-3 issues.
I’m gonna go ahead and say that Wrath Classic launch numbers (if they’re ever published in any form) will be very similar, if not higher than what we saw during Vanilla’s Classic launch. I’m not ignoring or dismissing your point, but just saying that it makes sense for a launch to bring in astronomical numbers, and Wrath Classic might not be the very beginning of the “Classic category”, but it’s certainly the most anticipated era of WoW for a Classic release!
I don’t want dungeon finder in any Classic era of WoW, but I couldn’t disagree with it would make perfect sense for them to implement it in the ICC phase just as they did originally.
I swear I’m not trying to disagree with you, but bear with me: I have a theory that once the “climax” of Classic has been reached (probably the end of Wrath), the population will gradually redistribute itself among the different Classic Eras. After all, before Classic became a thing, there were strong, long-standing private realms with big communities for Vanilla, TBC and Wrath. I can’t think that love for Vanilla and eventually TBC will have suddenly died.
I’m guessing that people are riding this wave of each respective Classic expansion being “new” and fresh again while they can. And once people have had their fill, I figure they’ll go back to whatever their favorite expansion was. You certainly can’t deny, given the sheer size of the different private realm communities, that there’s a market for each of the first 3 versions of WoW. And it is indeed very alive, even if the current numbers don’t seem to reflect that.
Of course, I could be wrong about all this. But this explanation makes sense to me.
Which I would be okay with. However, why not just add it at launch if they are going to implement it anyway?
We’ll just have to see how this all plays out.
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/shrug
At that point, we’re basically just discussing the devs’ internal design philosophy. I personally don’t think it would make sense to add it at launch because the most “authentic Wrath experience” is dungeon finder-free by any metric I can think of.
Yeah if they arent bringing in RDF im not playing wotlk.
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God I hope so. My server is completely bloated and more and more coming everyday. So many scrub guilds. I play everyday and I rarely recognize the same players in LFG. All mage bots on ignore too. Badboy is a best addon made.
Bottom line is finding a dungeon group is almost impossible at lower levels. And finding dungeon groups at max level is incredibly tedious and time-consuming waiting 30 min plus to find a group while just sitting there watching LFG spam. Little ridiculous, and I am on a mega server with a decent size guild.
Ive been also seeing some posts considering some modifications to RDF (not directly porting to dungeon ect…) which I would be okay with, but it would kind of suck at low levels if your group is all in eastern kingdoms and you qued for BFD…But at least I am in a group.
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