Congrats on Hard lock at 619!

I absolutely agree, it’s been a mostly miserable experience, but I love the people in my guild too much to dedicate my time to a more hardcore mythic team.

I’ve been fortunate enough to get into a group last week that was relatively pleasant and just down to make mistakes/pull for a bit. We got Ulgrax down after something like an hour and a half of pulling and getting people to do mechanics.

I’m totally fine if people are chill about it, but good lord, most of them are just way too hot headed to prog anything more than Heroic. Stuff doesn’t instantly die, and they burst multiple blood vessels, I swear.

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By 610 you have everything you need to beat 9s. Can do it lower if you’re quite skilled. But 610 is enough for 9s.

Would it be nice if the crests were earlier? Sure, but they are far from necessary. I’ve yet to see a player walled by 9s at a true 619 ilvl (all slots) yet and I’m fairly confient I won’t encounter one.

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Mmm, I do love the amount of super obvious gatekeeping going on in this thread. Such fragile egos they have.

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Honestly, 585 PVP gear and talents was enough to pull me through a +8 MoTS for me a couple of weeks ago. Timed it and kept up in DPS with both the Enh Sham and Fury War, with like 100k dps overall difference.

Given enough care and attention to mechanics, you can get by with some silly stuff in most content, at least as a DPS. Tanks and heals are less flexible in that regard, but 5-10 ilvls is definitely not going to be the make or break of a key in the 5-10 bracket.

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If this is accurate then there’s no reason to gate gilded crests at all.

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If you do the content you’ll get the rewards.

Need? What does need have anything to do with gearing in an MMO? It’s a fundamental reward pillar in WoW. No gear, no reward, no point in playing for a lot of people.

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If they were actually following the path of progression and doing the higher content, they wouldn’t be stuck at the 619 wall now would they? Seems like you just supported their point lmfao

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Right? Given the feedback I do reckon it’ll change.

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That wasn’t the point in delves. Delves are intended as an alternative means of progression for those who lack the time or will to engage with M+ or mythic raids. Furthermore, T11s are every bit as difficult as high keys. It is therefore logical for T11s to provide a path to myth track gear and related upgrade currency.

Unrelatedly, c’mon man, Moon Guard? I thought you were better than that. Well, provided you’re the Aveyond from that other MMO. You know, the one currently immolating itself.

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Tuesday will be 3rd vault of S1.

and some of you are mad cuz you aren’t gear capped already?

If S1 lasts 6 months; will it really matter that you gear capped in 2-3 weeks at the start?

At the rate we are gearing; all of us will be farming crests in our preferred end game soon anyway.

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Did you pick 8 because that’s what you are hard stuck on? Seems a bit self centered.

Or players can learn the mechanics and get better over the course of a 6-8 month season instead of feeling entitled to top tier loot week 1, 2, or 3.

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I know my. Goal for all my characters is 605 but that’s because I don’t do group content.

I don’t know why they feel they need 619 or better maybe just it makes them feel special?

If you’re not doing harder content than +8 then why the heck do you need it?

Fixed it for you

people want to be able to progress their characters. i’m not sure why that’s so difficult for people in this thread to understand. they’re asking for incentives to, you know, keep playing the game.

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Yes and I want better rewards at +12… to you know? keep playing the game.

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You can also get 3 Gilded Crests from a Tier 8 delve map reward trove…but you cant even get gilded on +8 Mythic dungeon.

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People are hard locked at 619 and I’m no where even near that.

I see why people complain about M+.

I’ve “hard locked” myself for ages.

Season 3 of Dragonflight I got like 3 toons to 476ilvl
Season 4 I think it was 515

I always 8/8 Champion 4/6 Heroic cap myself.

What players need to accept, is that sometimes stuff will be out of reach. And unless you care to Mythic raid or love pushing high keys, it isn’t worth trying to push yourself hard enough to do it

sounds fine to me

It’s good that they have Mythic raids as standing above and beyond.

However they might as well not exist. The best in the world did not have much better gear than I have right now and it took them multiple weeks and hundreds of thousands of real world dollars in consumables to clear it.

If Blizzard wants to go with this model where there’s nothing left but Mythic Raids after the first month of a raid tier (we’re progressing 7/8 H and probably will have her down next week or the week after) one would think they’d make an effort to actually make them for someone other than professional gamers.

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Some players choose to limit themselves to content that doesn’t allow them to reach the max possible ilvl.

It’s not the game’s fault that players are choosing to limit themselves.

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