The hardlock doesn’t exist. It’s an illusion, if you cannot do 9s at item level 619 that is a player created problem.
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It’s the correct viewpoint. You’re just not very bright I’m afraid.
The solution to the issue you’re describing here is making it take longer to get to 619.
WoW literally isn’t overpriced by any good-faith metric, and what the 1% is doing means literally nothing to me. My game experienced isn’t impacted one iota from them doing harder content and being rewarded with gear that has a few more stats.
If you only enjoy the game when you’re getting gear then you should quit, by the way. Your emotional state is being compromised to a pretty extreme degree over a nothingburger in a video game.
I don’t have a particularly favorable view of video game players, but even I don’t think the vast majority is such mental dwarfs that they would quit over an arbitrary progression cap that’s slightly lower than a different progression cap that you can achieve by doing harder content.
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It’s the correct viewpoint for classic players. Maybe you’d like it better there.
This is delusional.
It actually is. Most entertainment based subs come with a lot more for the same price.
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Ok im not ready that but OP you should try playing all class and specs. There is a lot when you consider gearing up alts, the grind never ends.
These entitled posts always give me a laugh.
Every time blizz caves and drops a few things to help people gear better outside of the harder content, they just keep pushing.
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I’m pretty much as opposite of a Classic player as you can get. I’m just not petty and jealous, with the emotional maturity of a 15-year-old.
Delusional how? Please enlighten me. If the issue is that you feel like you should have more game-time that can be put towards progression then the solution is to make progression take longer. The game already has plenty of issues with us blowing through so many ilvls per expansion, and you’d be back here crying about not being able to get to whatever the mythic ilvl cap is pushed to. Because your actual issue is that other players have something that you don’t, and that makes you irrationally jealous, and you would rather the game be redesigned instead of you learning to deal with basic emotions.
None that I know of. WoW provides an incredible amount of content for the dollar spent, and the quality of that content is high. Not that the game is perfect by any means, but it still has an S tier combat system and miraculously became one of the most beautiful games on the market.
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Gilded should drop at 7 since thats when deaths add more time.
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They literally did the opposite of this in TWW in M+.
You believe a slower path to lower gear would be beneficial. This is immensely delusional.
You already have evidence that the DF S1 model was significantly more popular. This model had a faster path to gear and the gap between different modes was 3 item levels.
Actually your constant comments of this nature prove you don’t have the emotional maturity you believe you have. More delusions.
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Delves.
Delves say you are incorrect.
You can now obtain +5 m+ gear from a tier 8 delve.
That’s why I specified M+.
Delves actually make low key M+ feel pointless.
They cut M+ off at both ends. It’s worse at the low end because it’s pointless to do instead of just doing delves. They cut it off at the high end by requiring a much higher level of play to get on the same level of reward that you could get in Dragonflight.
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You’re still not providing any reasoning.
Like here you once again imply that there’s some issue with there being a larger gap between prestige gear and non-prestige gear, but you’re not explaining why you think that’s a bad thing.
I’m just making sure you and anyone reading understands what’s actually happening here. Exclusively addressing someone’s words, even when they’re being obviously fallacious and engaging in bad-faith, is how you end up with poison like MAGA.
I haven’t closed off any avenue through which you might explain your reasoning. You just don’t have any because your entire position is based off of you trying to rationalize the jealous feelings you have.
They do, but that wasn’t my point. Op was qqing about the 619 “wall”, yet how many would have passed that regardless in the past?
People that normally wouldn’t even touch +5 m+ are now able to obtain the gear much easier.
Those of us that m+ frequently can completely skip the lower tier keys. While making them redundant, my point was it’s easier to gear.
No, they are telling them that they need to do the content that will offer them the progress they desire.
Imagine I just got my character to level 80 and geared up enough to start M+. So, I begin farming +2s, where the rewards actually feel like progress—crests, drops, and the Vault all help me move forward. Then, I move on to +3s, and again, the rewards contribute to progression. I keep moving up, from +4s, +5s, and so on, and everything is working as expected.
But then I hit +8s. Now, suddenly, the rewards from successful +8 runs don’t feel like progression anymore. Why? Because I’ve already maxed out the Champion track, and the Vault reward I get can’t even be upgraded (since for the first time we’re not getting the required crests).
Now, imagine having to debate with people who still don’t see the issue here… Yep…
Well, at least they keep bumping the thread, I guess…
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I understand what’s happening here better than you do. You need to help yourself.
That would be you cupcake as you refuse to see what’s right in front of your face.
It’s been explained to you you just refuse to listen and think you know more than you actually do.
Sticking players who aren’t in the top 1% into a crap progression track serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever other than to make a tiny number of players feel special, which is what cosmetic rewards are for.
Gear progression helps in every type of content. It can also help you get into higher content you may not have the skill to do at a lower gear level like world first players who do Mythic raids in the first few weeks pre-nerf.
Stopping people’s gear progression and telling them not to bother past that point is such an egregiously asinine design for this type of video game that it’s truly beyond comprehension that anyone would defend it.
It’s also already been proven that this model is less popular by how much people engage with it compared to other models they’ve tried. Why would you shoot yourself in the foot and alienate the majority of your players to make a minority feel more important (and even many of those players are actively speaking out against the current design, so they don’t actually like it better this way either).
Actually, that world demonstrates a severe lack of critical thinking skills which you yourself are putting on display.
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Imagine dragging politics into this, lmfao.
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this took me way too long to get… D:
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LOL, a +8 giving gilded crests is absolutely insane. That’s like dropping gilded on Normal raids or +2-4 keys.
I would certainly be down for them dropping at a +11, or if the tiers went higher, maybe a 12 or higher. But an 8? No way.
Also, this is coming from someone that has completely opted out of end-game group content and only does Delves for progression currently. I want to feel that my effort somewhat reflects the reward I’m getting.
“Git gud” or something, I guess is the intended response from Blizzard about it.
But in all seriousness, your options after hitting that +8 marker are to:
A: Get lucky and shove into 9’s by playing the numbers game (eventually, running enough keys, something will move)
B: Get ridiculously lucky with Tier 8 delve maps (I was blessed and had 60 crests from doing bountiful delves before I even touched a +7, muchless a +9)
C: Break into mythic raid pugging (Yeah, from my experience over the last 2 expansions of doing it, good luck with that one)
D: Realize it’s a hard wall and play a different game, showing Blizzard your discontent with the system by not giving them money.
They very much so need to move Mythic crests down to +8 or+7 keys to smooth out the experience. It was totally fine last expansion. And obviously that gear differential made absolutely zero difference in how RWF wrapped up in a ridiculously fast time frame, with this raid being a relatively easy experience.
They made the keys more difficult. That was enough. They didn’t need to move the goalpost and increase the difficulty. It would have been fine with one-or-the-other.
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Hot dog, that’s about as appealing as backyard laser eye surgery.
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