Community is just as Toxic as ever?

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This is what I’ve been saying for years. It’s really bad in leveling dungeons for newer players. It’s not like it happens all the time but I see some “elitist” player show up in a group and the first thing they do is complain at obvious new player in the group. The worst is when they call for a vote kick.

A few months back I was in a group that had 3 players from the same guild. A new player and me. The guy was a rogue and had no idea how to play, big deal. It was a dungeon below level 40. But one of the people in the guild was getting so angry, started cursing in chat, calling vote after vote. I found one thing quite funny, someone in his guild must have voted no as well. Long story short after the third attempt I told the guy to chill down and I left the group(I was the tank).

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Wouldn’t it be 2 out of 4? Because that’s literally exactly what the OP said:

Why don’t you read what has been written, take a little time to comprehend what you have read, then reply. You’ll look less like a troll that way.

Unless, of course, you are just trolling…

You do know that it’s possible to know something about a thing before you actually do the thing for yourself?

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I’ll admit, I dislike when folks automatically jump on kicking someone. I’ll usually vote no, unless it’s been a series of mistakes or jerkish behavior. That said, it’s also an unfortunate part of random groups. Folks are usually there to get from Point A to B, and sometimes forget about others.

Sucks, but I wouldn’t let it define the entire game.

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0/10

Didn’t even crack a smile.

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A vote kick isn’t toxic

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This is unfortunately true, this community in this game really does idolize the endgame… and subsequently also tries to apply the same “logic” which applies there to pretty much EVERY aspect of the game, including to the basics of leveling and just learning how to play the game.

When it comes to vote-kicking in particular, the sad truth is that many people will just “agree” with the vote-kick automatically and not even look at who is being kicked.

The reasons you were kicked were also suitably trivial, but sadly typical of the current behaviour of what I’ve seen from the WoW community over the past couple years.

If you want somewhere nicer, I would honestly recommend FFXIV at this point.

Is it perfect? No.
But it still is WAY better than the behaviour you see in WoW.

I’ve honestly only seen one vote-kick occur in that game, and the case was most egregious. It involved a tank, in a normally fairly easy two-tank dungeon, somehow managing to wipe the group three times in under 5 minutes at the start of the dungeon on the first pull. I actually had to go AFK for those 5 minutes at the start (and was the other tank in this case), and only found out about it after getting back; pretty much got the run back on track once I joined in.

Now, the other tank was called out for doing a poor job (three wipes in 5 minutes is hard to deny)… but he wasn’t kicked because of that. What did happen, because he was called out, he parked his butt at the entrance in protest; after clearing half the dungeon, we decided to kick him for essentially AFK’ing the entire run.

That’s right, vote-kicks in FFXIV don’t happen because of poor performance.
They happen because you show poor behaviour.

If the group is underperforming as a whole and struggling to clear the content, people are more inclined to “Vote Abandon”; a simple mechanism where if the run appears unsalvageable, a majority vote to call it is passed and the group disbands with no fault placed on any one particular person. This is typically used after repeated wipes only. Some people do leave early on their own accord as well, but again, usually only after several wipes; those who leave after just one wipe are quite rare.

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Okay, now I sympathize for the OP, because people are getting pissy over grammatical mistakes like “toxic” and “as ever.”

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While that is possible it’s also possible this player is not new and is trying to influence opinion based on false pretenses.
Thing is we will never truly know.

The forums allowing 50 avatars per bnet account perpetuate this confusion and type of behavior.
Its bad enough when people run multiple accounts on discussion boards let alone one account having 50 different faces.

At the very least there should be a note on everyones avatar “This poster posts from the same IP as this poster”.

This system is easily played and used to influence discussions.

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I find that post toxic Amelia.

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So report it.

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More of a slip up if he is indeed not “new”. Wouldn’t you say?

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When you desperately want to be in the middle of a conversation but have nothing to contribute, you start making pokes at grammar. People do this for attention. Whenever I see it, I always want to be like “hi! yes hi!, we see you!..”

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lol I was joking.

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Hi! Do you see me? GIVE ME MY ATTENTION!

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Your assessment is fairly accurate. There is an expectation that you play at a high level on Day 1. Use this as motivation to improve your game play. Just ignore the kicks. You can get kicked for just about anything.

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Sorry names with funny symbols are invisible to me.

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Not until you correct my grammar.

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Hard to read tone. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Do you honestly believe this is the full story?

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They are probably new