Laundering isn’t a thing that exists or even can exist in WoW. Blizzard knows how/what/when gold is bought. There’s no hiding it, covering it up, or explaining away. That’s what money laundering is - making illicit money appear legitimate. GDKPs can’t do that, because Blizzard is able to track it from start to finish.
Would you still hate the concept of GDKPs if there was no RMT?
Typical NAZl behavior.
It’s really weird that people think you should be playing one character through the current endgame raids without end. The game literally isn’t built that way. Games like FFXIV are far more conducive to this, what with the ability to switch Jobs on the same character.
I mean if you want to play only one character forever no matter what, you can do so… But the game doesn’t support it and doesn’t really have an obligation to do so. Blizzard wants folks to experience more than one class, because the classes themselves are content.
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Did you see what I did earlier in the thread, and backtracked when it became clear there was some error in communication or interpretation?
Consider doing that. There’s no point to continue talking around each other like you’re going to get some epic victory.
Except they’re able to launder that gold into innocent players hands who do not consent to RMT - which then flags them for RMT.
I don’t think you know how larceny, fencing, or laundering works… at all.
Deliberately redistributing illegally obtained items is illegal. Obtaining, and owning illegally obtained items is also illegal. The difference is that the innocent player has no way to tell if they’re doing something bannable or not just because someone else is cheating.
Sorry, not sorry. Ban GDKPs. Ban it in all avenues of WoW, tbh.
THEN PERMA BAN THOSE GOLD BUYER/SELLER ITS SIMPLE. The punishment is not harsh enough to discourage gold buying. Look at Dubai, no one dare to steal because they would lose their fingers if caught.
I mean you just admitted GDKPs are not the problem here, they are a victim.
Gdkps are a convenient way for gold sellers to filter their il lgotten gold into the economy and for cheaters to get ez gear. Any other take is a cope
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What a massive amount of mental gymnastics you went through to get to that conclusion.
I hope you stretched first. I don’t want you to cramp up doing all those mental summersaults.
I see how you got that from my post, I should have elaborated more. I do include alts in this. I have 3 characters who just don’t need anything meaningful from badges anymore. I still raid, but others see that as a stopping point once they have raid gear and badge gear on several toons.
Truth, entirely different mode of play for sure.
I’d say it supports both pretty well, but I prefer having options via alts.
Agree.
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Maybe it just seems hard to you because you have never worked your brain before.
Again, there’s no “laundering” gold. You cannot make bad gold appear to be clean gold in WoW. There is no purpose in dispersing illicit gold far and wide, it’s still illicit and Blizzard knows exactly where it is and how it moves.
Innocent players will not be banned for receiving illicit gold unless it’s a matter of routine, this was spelled out in the customer service forums. For someone to get suspended or banned, they’d need to regularly be receiving illicit gold.
Unless you mean to assert that the purpose of GDKPs is to get players’ accounts actioned, but that would be silly.
So again - if RMT was a total non-factor, would you still hate GDKPs as a concept? This isn’t leading to a gotcha.
GDKPs are a thing because the RNG loot system is godawful. I’ve gone through multiple iterations of WoW getting left behind because gear refuses to drop or bad rolls. It’s demoralizing and disheartening. At least GDKPs offer something in return.
A gear badge or token system solves the biggest appeal of GDKPs for me, personally - spending hours and hours and hours of time and energy with very little to show for it due to RNG.
They have banned GDKPs and announced the deployment of a new (and very successfully tested) technology for detecting bots. What makes you think they are not also coming for the gold buyers? I am betting they are, they just aren’t announcing it.
No sorry I actually wasn’t clear, my post wasn’t meant to imply you directly, but a hypothetical you.
I get what you mean about the game supporting it, but I specifically meant in terms of running raids with that character beyond getting BiS. Other activities, such as PvP, can be done on one character forever. Or farming mats. But generally, running the same raid over and over on the same character who needs nothing from instance is a relatively unproductive use of time in WoW.
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Just because you type something 50 times in one massive run-on paragraph doesn’t make it any more/less true.
You’ve massively misrepresented this: The issue presented is that Blizzard months ago came forward saying “If you receive gold that is RMT’d via GDKP we will consider you guilty of RMT as well. You need to know where that gold is coming from, and accepting it flags you for RMT.” - They openly said it is your responsibility if you are participating in these activities to ensure the gold you’re being given is not RMT gold - and that if it is, you are accountable for it.
Which then means the innocent people having flagged gold laundered into the economy is at risk - because Blizzard isn’t going to rip Jimmy’s life savings off his account and perma-ban him because he accepted a 1g tip for a summon.
Trying to separate GDKP from RMT is an inane/asinine logical step. You’re trying to rationalize “well would cheating be cheating if it wasn’t cheating?” - and it’s silly. I’m not going to humor it. You can try to down-play cheating, and make it seem like not cheating: but at the end of the day, it is still cheating regardless of how many posts you have in this thread insisting it’s not.
GDKP has no place. You can argue/cry/whine/moan/complain/spam post/whatever all you want, but ultimately it’s a situation that force-feeds RMT on both sides of the coin: supplying and purchasing. It is not something the community en large wants - it’s something an insanely vocal minority are grumpy about because Visa is no longer in charge of them getting epics.
My favorite is the people insisting they’ll just do it anyway, as if there’s not an entire subreddit already dedicated to GDKP discord busting/reporting/exposing people participating in GDKPs in game that “totally aren’t gdkps”
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Getting rid of RMT is actually very simple. You go after the buyers not just the sellers. If you buy gold you get a slap on the wrist selling gold will lead to major account action. Thing is if whales start getting banned for buying gold they might stop playing so blizz doesn’t want to take action against accounts that are actually playing. So they target bot and seller accounts but it doesn’t fix the root problem which is that people who buy gold and get caught get at most a slap on the wrist.
According to Blizzard it isn’t that simple.
Here’s a post I wrote discussing the issue earlier in the day:
Hypothetical me is apparently a tool if you read some replies to me, hate hypothetical me. Real me is a rad dude finger guns
Oh for sure, this was me back in the day. Now I think I have like 7 max levels, few of which I just don’t touch.
Truth, I enjoy running with my guild which is why I still show up to do our ICC raids. Dad guild basically but a fun time in general. It does however get stale after a while.
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All you have proven is that you don’t know how GDKPs work and you have falsely asserted a symbiotic relationship with RMT because you are to ignorant to comprehend their more promenent purpose.
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Which they are doing with this move.
The rest of your post is essentially a low grade conspiracy theory.