I heard with some of the modern shooters, they did just that…
Personally, I was going to stop going outside because a car could hit me.
Never mind vehicles make life better in many ways -they solve more problems than they cause- the fact they can be abused means I can’t go outside anymore.
I was trolled into communicating with this dude and I feel bad for it. #shame
It’s not a hypothetical. It can already happen, as has been proven. The exact same system that can be abused is being implemented into Classic.
That doesn’t stop the potential for the abuse to occur in the first place. Even if the people filing false reports are punished, the automated punishment they can force through that abuse will still have an impact on the target.
What do you mean “new” stance? That has been my stance from the very beginning. The issue is that the punishments are automated. The prevalence of the abuse is not relevant to my concern. Rather, the possibility for abuse is.
Not really. Say, for example, if the punishments weren’t automated.
You don’t see a problem with how someone who did nothing wrong could be unfairly punished? Okay, got it.
That’s literally what happened in the video. Did you even watch it?
Did you watch the other clips from the first video?
Someone breaking the rules is different than automatic punishments being issued to people who didn’t break the rules.
The wrongdoing (or lack thereof) is rather key.
Of course the chat can be “abused,” but no innocent people are being unfairly punished.
Yes but the ability to abuse the ticket system existed… this is just a different type of potential abuse… one that apparently requires less GMs to manage.
Yep I saw a guy who literally asked to be silenced get silenced.
So maybe don’t do what he did? I guess we should thank him for that.
Well, apparently it’s not a big deal with most of the player base aside from a few people pushing an agenda.
He got squelched, which was removed in about an hour, then he got a 3 day ban for abusing the reporting system, which mean a GM looked into it.
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The abuse of the ticket system didn’t result in people unfairly being punished, though.
In both cases, the support staff has to deal with the issue of false reports filed against an innocent person, but in the case of automated punishments, the innocent still gets punished.
The system didn’t make that distinction. Just because he asked (on stream, not in game) for people to report him doesn’t mean the system realized that he was asking to be silenced.
What he did, as far as the system is concerned, is irrelevant. The punishment was dealt according to the number of reports (the exact threshold is unknown), not according to his actions.
The agenda of not wanting innocent people to be punished, yes.
Yes, automatically. Thank you for acknowledging what I’ve been saying from the beginning.
That’s because he appealed it.
The GM didn’t look into the reports before the punishment; the GM looked into the appeal after the punishment.
Are you seeing the problem here, yet?
And?
Well no what he did was intentionally abuse the system, gaming automated system in WoW has always been against the TOS.
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You are wrong there, all reports are looked at, the ones with more reports are gotten to quicker. The squelch is an emergence measure put in by Blizzard basically telling the player to “shut up” for time being while they look into matters. It’s was designed for spamming and reporting gold sellers.
You guys are going ham on this. ![:popcorn:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/popcorn.png?v=6" ":popcorn:")
keep up the good work.
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So the system doesn’t care about the context of him asking to be reported. The system has no way of even knowing that’s what was happening.
Saying he was asking to be silenced doesn’t mean anything.
That’s not why he was squelched, though. He was squelched because of the automated system.
Correct, but that doesn’t mean the punishments aren’t automated.
Then why was he squelched?
So you acknowledge punishments are being dealt automatically? Thank you for conceding the point I’ve been making this entire time.
If that is what you got from what I said…I’m sorry.
If that isn’t what you meant, please feel free to clarify.
He won an argument on the internet!!!
Granted, he’s arguing semantics concerning auto squelch and actual account silences, but he sorta WON!
/grabs popcorn
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oooo I see him typing away and can barely SIT STILL!
No semantics are necessary. I said the punishments are being dealt automatically. That is factually accurate.
The word I use, be it squelch, silence, mute, etc, is more dependent on what the person I was replying to used, so to make sure we’re on the same page.
Oh gotcha. Single character auto temp squelch (during investigation) is same to post investigation account wide silence.
Gotcha, ty for the clarification!
Shares popcorn with shaman.
It’s not going to be abused in any amount or to the extent that it will be a problem any more than the ticket system was abused or a problem.
And? We already knew the punishments were automated. So basically he was just being a typical youtube drama queen for click bait.
Have always loved Blizzards “PvP happens, deal with it” stance.
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