Blizzard has announced that there will likely not be RP-PvP upon the launch of Classic. I know to a lot of you it may not matter, or you may have no interest in Classic whatsoever, but if you do intend to play and would like to show your support to have Blizzard add RP-PvP servers at launch please visit
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https:// www .change.org/p/blizzard-what-many-are-trying-to-achieve-is-getting-an-rp-pvp-server-when-wow-classic-releases
Thank you!
Iâve seen change .org abused a lot, but this takes the freakinâ cake, man.
To a point I think it doesnât affect the game-experience in a monumental way, however for the purposes of choosing a server I think it should definitely be incorporated as an option for players who want to pursue RP as a viable way to play the game, and of course there being a desire to PvP as well itâs not a massive ask at all. Blizzard can always remove a RP-PvP server as well if the population is seen as being too minimal like theyâve had to do in the pastâŚthoughts?
nah iâm good thank you though
Why not just PvP on the RP server?
Itâs a deeper, more complex issue than just being flagged 24/7 on an RP server.
⌠but why do you people keep coming to
the Wyrmrest-accord board???
On the US client of the webpage you have to SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM.
Is there like a search function that just grabs topics and keywords and directs you there?
Edit: yes i know its an rp server with a lot of people who rppvp but this is a classic WoW topic
Itâs because, when youâre on the front page of the forums (the âAll Catagoriesâ page), it forces you to select a catagory for your new thread to go in. In a stunning example of modern website design, Wyrmrest Accord is the first option on this list forâŚno reason, as far as I can tell.
For some reason they sort realm forums before General, PvP, Story, etc. and we appear to be the realm forum with the most traffic. Thatâs as far as the logic goes.
The point of an RP PvP server is to have cross faction rivalries happen organically, without the need of any sort of organization. Imagine it being something like 2 people randomly looking at each other, beating each other to death because theyâre both flagged, and then they call their guilds. BUT they also do a little RP story because of that.
Basically, the server becomes a salty spitoon and itâs a pretty good and fun time. Just sometimes you want some world pvp happening while having rp at the same time.
Iâm not really seeing what part of that is prevented by an RP server.
I think what their pointing towards is a more natural environment for PvP as-per a PvP server and from that, RP-dynamics are drawn - like if youâre casually walking down the path; player jumps out and destroys you, says a little RP-thing - happens repeatedly, then a storyline-esque scenario occurs in which this guild community has been killed off by said-pker. Now thereâs a role playing dynamic of sworn enemy of the communityâŚif youâre flagged you have to ask the player for RP-sake to turn on the flag instead of it being automatically woven into the scenarioâŚnot my cup of tea but I get why people would want this option - perhaps push more for ONLY Rp-PvP servers?
Wouldnât you not even be able to understand them?
And again isnât all this still possible on an RP server?
If the server is Rp-PvP they donât need to choose to flag themselves for PvP or not flag themselves, world PvP is not a choice on a PvP realm in classic WoW - again the more Iâm thinking about this, if a realm is technically RP-associated, players shouldnât have a choice whether or not theyâre flagged for PvP, they should already be flagged no matter what. If youâre playing a role you should as a player be given free reign over what you can and canât do, the consequences of which are reinforced by the community (guilds, surrounding players, etc)
So itâs more about making sure that nobody can opt out of PvPâŚ
The âorganizationâ mentioned is just consent, then. It sounds like the only difference is a choice being taken away from you in one.
You are consenting to PvP when you join a RP-PvP. Itâs not really forced on you, since you can choose to play on Normal, PvP, or RP servers. RP servers have their own restrictions enforced by players and mods to (mostly in the form of player names), but âPvP onâ is easier to enforce via a simple switch than âRP onâ, as itâs less subjective.
I feel for you OP. Hope they do release a dedicated RP-PvP server, although Iâm concerned about whether thereâd be enough numbers for them to feel like they have to meet the demand. Online petitions are one thing. Theyâll probably be looking at whoâs actually PvPâing and what communities end up forming.
You have the option to not roll on such a server. By entering an RP PvP server, you consent that you will be ganked, you will be killed anywhere. And that itâs completely okay. And sometimes you just want to smash heads. ICly of course.
Thatâs something that canât be done on a regular RP server. What RP PvP people want is an environment where itâs a designated RP realm, in addition to having everyone being flagged. Giving a more risky environment for cross faction RP.
If you donât want to roll on such a server, thatâs completely up to you. But having the option for people who enjoy RP PvP to roll on a server thatâs designated as an RP PvP server would be absolutely nice for those who donât mind an environment like that.
Sorry the organization is just making sure you canât opt out. Is what I should have said.
I just donât see the difference. If you want to PvP, flag up, if not, youâre also free not to. Rather than dealing in absolutes.
The key thing is that you also have the option of not rolling on such a server if you donât want to. But RP PvP servers are for those who donât mind world PvP and RP together. In addition, it will attract like minded people who both like world PvP and RP and want to see it happen organically.
More options has not harmed anyone.
Also Classic has the caveat that in a PvP realm, you cannot roll the opposite faction. So in an RP PvP realm, a Horde player will not be able to play as Alliance and vice versa.
Okay but Iâm saying the difference is being togglable, and being locked in forever.
I can understand why they chose the one they did.
Edit: they did warmode for a reason. Itâs far too punishing and unreasonable to lock someone into being flagged forever, to too many players.
Theyâre not going to add those servers immediately because thereâs no guarantee that Classic is going to be profitable enough to support what are already sparse realms. Each realm costs them money, and theyâre not making Classic to support the community, theyâre doing it as a business to make cash. Thereâs a market for it, and theyâre catering to it. Thereâs nothing wrong with that, thatâs their job. They do some stupid things with that cash⌠But oh well.
Classic would have to be around for at least a year or two before they considered making a decision like that. And it might not be. People somehow got it in their heads that everythingâs going to go back to the good old days when their old, favorite game comes back out, and it wonât. Theyâre going to play it, realize that their friends still donât play, that their guild might have the same name but not the same people, and that theyâre not going to feel like the 5 year old kid playing in their dadâs lap again. Thatâs half of what an MMO is.
There will always be exceptions to that kind of thing, and there will absolutely be old gamers that stick with the old game and new gamers that like how different it is and keep playing⌠But the other stuff is whatâs going to happen to a majority of players coming back for Classic. The company is going to see a huge number of players the first few months, and then itâs going to peter out. I would be pleasantly surprised if Classic isnât shut down after 5 years or so. The term âgimmickâ has kind of a bad rep to it, but Classic WoW is very much a gimmick and those donât usually have an extended shelf life.
Hope I can be proved wrong on this one. Iâm okay with people pointing and laughing at me if I am.
Yes, and the server is reserved for people who do want to be toggled permanently. Even in home cities. And want all around riskier environment. Because being toggled in an RP PvE realm is not risky at all, since people seldom do flag.
But thereâs a sense of danger that comes from a PvP realm. Everyoneâs flagged, itâs pretty much kill or be killed, and thatâs the excitement, and the adrenaline. Everyoneâs a target, including you.
Thatâs what RP PvP servers aim for. An extremely risky environment to RP in. Where people can kill you at a drop randomly. And where you can kill them. The stories you can put out with something like that.
Just look at Ravenhul and his stories!