Classic + is the only way, doing TBC and onward would be horrible!

I kinda doubt you’d recognize critical thinking if you saw it.

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I’m seriously mystified.

OK…

…so most people have not even completed 20% of things to do in Classic and yet…

…people are asking for additional content.

I’m telling you…

…don’t indulge this.

People can’t just enjoy something.

Literally trying to turn Classic into Retail 2.0.

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I agree do it like OSRS where you can hold a community poll on what they should add next to the game, add restrictions like be level 40 or have at least 3-5 Days of playtime. I don’t know if people want classic to transfer to tbc or have completely new servers for it (which I think would be really trash and split the community up)
I doubt they would work on it because after these bugs and phases they’re gonna work on the next expac.

No one complained about flying in BC

I’m not a big flying advocate, I’m just staying a fact.

People complain about flying now, but BC was the best time to play WoW.

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world pvp is a big attraction for wow. what does it show during the vanilla cinematic? WORLD PVP…DUH

How do you get in combat if you’re flying? They literally had to add items to knock people off mounts for world pvp.

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the features you like killed wow

No, they killed ganking. WoW was still going quite strong during Wrath. Flying isn’t the problem, and never was, except for people on PvP servers. I play normal servers, and can’t really be bothered to care about people whining about how they can’t relentlessly gank people all over the world.

What I like about WoW is the lore, the exploration, and questing. Frankly, all three of those things were at their height in WotLK, though MoP was a solid second. I was never a hardcore raider, and didn’t even set foot into Molten Core until sometime during MoP. Still haven’t killed Onyxia. But back in Wrath, I got to max level with only doing a couple dungeons (SFK and BFD), but gathering the Loremaster, Explorer, and Seeker titles, for doing all the quest chains on all the continents, filling out each zone map on all the continents, and completing thousands of quests.

And I had a damn good time doing it. So forgive me if I don’t think your opinion that what I liked ‘killed WoW’ is worth kodo dung.

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TBC was good, who cares if it reduced lolworldPVP, which after all was 99.9% 70s ganking 20s in Azeroth anyways.

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flying only kills world pvp im fine with it and i expect blizzard will do nothing more then launch tbc.

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yah, sounds really fun, artificially gated content

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I disagree. BC was awesome. WotLK was awesome with some nonsensical, anti-wow, pro-retail changes. Up through WotLK they added to the rpg systems instead of taking away, stripping down, streamlining, and dumbing down (mostly).

I would be ecstatic if they went up to WotLK, minus the aoe grinding speedrun mindset of wotlk, minus armory, minus group finder, minus ilevel, minus achievements, minus guild banks, minus everything that made retail such a piece of garbage. Then go WotLK+.

Kepp retail for the retail players to make them happy, and keep this timeline with all classic sensibilities, and only add instead of take away.

BC got us JC, the arena, a lot of necessary changes to classes to make specs more available, blood elves and those blue guys, alliance shamans and horde paladins, and I think that xpac added the bonuses to crafting (like mining giving more hp and skinning giving 1% bonus crit chance).

WotLK gave us DKs, glyphs that were pretty awesome and could dramatically change abilities, etc. And the talent trees were amazing.

Anyone remeber during cataclysm beta before they ruined wow when they had the 81 point talent trees? Those were all amazing. Whatever comes after wotlk should keep those exact same talent trees from the cataclysm beta.

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I don’t recall flying eliminating world pvp. What I do recall is flying eliminating people just camping someone because they couldn’t get away.

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People often believe this and I think it’s because those Xpacs had high sub numbers. However, that was more due to the fact that hype generated from previous success was just carried over, and the lore behind them. The fact was that BC and Wrath were implementing very bad game systems that modern WoW is now permanently anchoring to. Eventually it caught up to them and by the end of Wrath you could see the drop was already starting to occur, even before Cata came out.

I enjoyed TBC more than Vanilla or Wrath. Sub numbers don’t really matter to me as much as what content I enjoyed the most.

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You actually have very little chance they’re going to do develop brand new content for Classic instead of Retail, while adding the 2 most successful xpacs in all of WoW history would be relatively easy for devs and an almost guaranteed bump in subs.

So it actually makes quite a lot of sense.

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These servers are coming and will be announced at Blizzcon. They will be separate servers that you cannot transfer to. There is no plans to create an alternate vanilla world.

What are you talking about… why would they be flying if they are in combat…

Just me but I don’t understand people when they know what’s coming in TBC and how broken things start to get after it.

Like the introduction of arenas which started the removal of fun mechanics and the start the homogenization of the classes? Like specific heroic mode dungeons (basically lazy design)? Instead of just making dungeons require more people, like a real heroic dungeon should. Like flying? Like portals making “qol” easier? Like modern dailies? Like the lower level content no longer being relevant anymore (nobody would do instances in Azeroth)? Like faster xp below level 60 (ez mode)? Like Recruit a Friend? Like the barber shop? Like the real start of linear quest progression? Like starting the trend that Xpacs were basically small zone expansions, giving only 5 to 10 levels of content?

It’s things like these that really started to tear away from the game and it’s original vision.

The only good thing to look forward to would be the lore.

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