Classic Era PVP is TERRIBLE

I don’t believe this change was made for era specifically

I think it was made to do with whatever formula is carried over to next fresh

do what now? are you accusing me of being someone else? Bro every single time you see 2 people without 8000000 post with the same opinion that DOESNT match yours you go straight to accusations and insults.

That is super weird my guy

Yeah the PVP honor system needs to be reverted back to what it was. In no way shape or form should it be continued into SoM 2. The whole point was about the social journey; not getting rank 14 for everybody. It’s completely destroyed right now. And the late stage version of it will just be fields full of rank 14s gatekeeping anybody from even trying to rank.

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Sorry. It’s too obvious and you always reply the same way and say the same stuff. I don’t even get the point of why you do it.

We need forum RealId.

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Forum real id would make you look like a bully, which you are. I’m all for it.

You stay harassing people on the forums. I seen you accusing another guy of being someone else because you didn’t like his opinions. Who am I supposed to be today?

I hope they’re at least good looking.

Forum Real ID would just make it so people can’t hide (typically to troll but sometimes for no reason) and I wouldn’t have any desire to say anything.

I’ve never gotten a vacation in-game or on the forums. I said no names. Not worried.

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ERA was effectively “FRESH” just a few months ago. There was less than 5% of the player base with any gear 6 months back.

Era was so backwater 6 months ago we literally organized events like WSG, raids, dueling tournaments, etc because the community was very small.

The economy was 100% “FRESH”, and there were no Gold DKP, and as far as I could tell zero bots.

The problems came in 2 forms.

  1. Blizzard gave SoM transfers to Era… (Transfers are ALWAYS) a mistake unless otherwise entirely needed. and frankly SoM Characters should have been deleted as its a “Seasonal” game.

  2. Botters turned up because the credit card warriors turned up when Wrath died due its failure in design and the advent of the WoW token. The coiners came to ERA because wrath died, not because they really wanted to be here… Because Blizzard fails to deal with botting due to the fact that they have effectively zero in game GM’s in a tiny game… the bots run rampant. Its not a hard problem to solve but Blizzard like bots because they are buff to quarterly numbers, even though the result of this is the unavoidable death of a game or server.

This is inaccurate. GDKPs quickly took root in the free xfer destinations once green-lit. Believe it or not, users would broadcast their prevalence on the other clusters to lure them into that cesspool.

make warsong gulch great again

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Thinking you did not read.

I was talking about the time before SoM transfers, and before Era started being super popular again… There were zero Gold DKP, and there were no bots that I could detect.

I read your post fine. Your comprehension of mine is what’s lacking. You said 6 months ago. I’m telling you GDKP was steadily growing in Classic Era since free transfers were first implemented in 2021 Free Character Transfers Now Available -- WoW Classic Era

I played on Whitemane since the Launch of Classic Era. If you were on Whitemane you would have known this.

There were no Gold DKP’s until just recently; realistically within the last 4 months-ish is when all the botters and gold DKP turned up on Whitemane Cluster.

I know for a fact, because I have been here the whole time.

You are dead wrong.

It’s an unsolvable problem if you don’t have pseudo-government support. How did come to believe something so blatantly absurd?

How do you permanently have such bad takes?

“ERA IS BAD BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PLAYING IT WHEN BEFORE IT WAS DEAD”

really??? lmfaooo

There were no gold DKP until a few months ago. There were not really enough players to field more than a few WSG games under community organized play.

We literally organized everything. It makes me wonder if you’re thinking of Seasons of Mastery? That’s not the same.

Where did I say Era was bad? oh that’s right I did not say that… IMO there are some aspect of just 6 months ago when Era was low pop that was overall better.

But Long story short, Era is fine, if you don’t like it play a different game.

I think his takes on things are fine.

My question is how does this forum attract so many people who have never been taught how to type to other people, and instead, just know how to be pointlessly rude?

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Its difficult to justify being moderate or tolerant with people who’s position is effectively “too many people are enjoying the game please remove fun”

Which summarizes the GDKP and pvp change crowd.

This is a non-sequitor. The GDKP culture is independant of Era’s organization for BGs. The Free Xfer destinations have harbored Era’s GDKP filth for years.