We have every right to ask. You can also assume what you’d like, and I dont have to provide you with anything.
You speak in absolutes but your words have no meaning. Kinda like when people pusy their opinions as fact. They’re just your opinons and all of us asking for clones don’t really care about your opinion.
I remember when clone prices were announced. The outcry was immense
Then they lowered it and peasants felt like “ we did it guys, we won” no, you still lost.
Clones should of been $5 or free.
So does everybody else. Anyone can ask for anything. This is not news or a point in your favor. Your merely stating the obvious. Totally worthless, it goes without saying. Blizzard has the right to ignore you, which you should probably be getting quite adjusted too right about now.
You are free to ask. There is no harm in asking. There’s nothing to stop you from asking no matter how ridiculous and entitled the request. But asking for things comes with some sort of expectation that the request be addressed if not fulfilled. You expect to be taken seriously. That comes with the self imposed burden of making an actual argument that puts a rational framework in place in an effort to counter or at least off set the mountain of evidence to the contrary. Hundreds of posts on the subject and you haven’t bothered once.
If you’re free to and are compelled to ask on a public forum I’m free to hold you to account. Mind you, you do not have to honor my request but it would just prove me to be right like I already know I am since Im not offering you an opinion, Im telling you the truth.
100% incorrect. Im pointing too and reminding you of the publicly announced absolutes published and acted upon by the entity with the power to make them and carry them out. Its not that my words have no meaning, there is no meaning you want to find in them since it lets the hot air out of your big clone balloon.
Its a fact they said they were retiring the service and deleting the data. Its a fact they retired the service. Its a fact that clones are not available. Its a fact that there are no plans to bring clones back. Its a fact that not one clone thread or alternate request has been responded too. Its a fact that people who submitted tickets about getting clones restored were rejected on the grounds that it was no longer an option.
That’s not Corpseknife’s opinion, its Arthie’s superhuman capacity to live in total denial.
I didn’t give you my opinion. I gave you three rock solid cases where people in your exact position were totally and completely ignored for 12 + months and they all said “we’ll just keep asking til they answer/cave to us” which is exactly what you said in this thread. That’s your big plan and Im letting you know its not a great plan and can back that up and then you just go and keep proving me right.
Your embarrassing 2nd grade failure of response to it was that those things didnt make Blizzard money. Which, hilariously enough, still comes with the burden of substantiating your counter by explaining what money has to do with clones and subsequently achieves the impossible. Then the day the clones come back. You skipped all that for some reason, I guess you just forgot or something. Or you don’t have a case like I said which is an example of where Im forced to state the obvious.
Ive only asked you like 30 times so either you got a real bad memory or a deep, loving relationship with denial.
You have the right to continue to delude yourself too, lets not forget that possibility. Please don’t let me stop you, that’s not my goal anyway. I just like to point out cautionary tales to other lurkers and hopefully reduce the amount of these types of entitlement requests going forward.
Being against it and saying it’s not coming back are not the same thing.
I agree, but asking here is not going to be seen by anyone at Blizzard. otherwise they would have posted a reply in the last 4 months since Era became popular again.
Your opinion is that clones won’t come back. That’s not a fact, that’s your opinion.
Whats not a fact is that they will keep the service retired.
Your so called facts are just your worthless opinion which you’re trying to push out as fact.
Fact is you have no clue what Blizzard will do, you have no say in what they will do, you have no idea who is listening or reading.
You’re just upset people are asking for their characters back because if it gains traction, and they bring it back, you won’t feel special anymore.
That hurts your feelings and here you are taking it personally.
Eh it’s probably a slow moving ship. I’m sure the focus is elsewhere at the moment.
It’s not opinion, it’s what Blizzard have said.
There is no data for it to come back with.
I have quoted the Blizzard information more than once.
They have stated the data is gone, forever.
Just like you are upsetting them by giving them hope, when there is none.
Blizzard scuttled the ship and it cannot be refloated.
Again, the proof.
Since its obvious you dont know how this works, Ill explain it to you for like the 11th time:
Its a fact until you prove otherwise. This would involve you giving me and the rest of the forum credible evidence (verifiable facts, data, substantiated information) that directly refute what Im saying and thus revealing it as my opinion.
You haven’t done that yet.
This is an unmistakable claim that you know its coming back. Please explain to me how you know this to be the case. Ive only asked 100 times. Please share your knowledge, not your whacked out theory or opinion.
I gave you actual facts, its not my fault you can’t handle them and want to make this personal by projecting your shortcomings onto me.
Neither do you.
Neither do you.
Neither do you.
They said they were retiring the service, permanently.
The service has since been retired and we can assume its permanent seeing as you have no clones, no mention of clones returning and all attempts to get clones returned hasn’t so much as garnered a single response despite thousands of posts, tweets, in game tickets, etc.
I never said I do know any of it. Youre the one saying that clones are gone, arent coming back and to stop asking.
Well if you dont know and I dont know, why are you here telling me what to do when you’re as clueless as I am whether or not this will happen.
Your opinion is that it wont and mine is that it will. Youre just upset because others dont value your opinion as mich as youd like them to.
Hate to break it to you but me or anyone else asking for clones dont really care what your opinion is or what you have to say. We can ask as much as we want and you can be upset all you want about us asking. Your feelings arent our problem.
You dont need the data if your character hasnt even gone to TBC. The data is on wrath, and if its gone it can be recreated, just takes the demand.
All that is considering if the data is truly gone.
Youre all just affraid that the demand is there and blizzard will bring it back to make a buck which is way more important to a corporation than how you feel about bringing back the service.
it’s over, clonies
it’s time to give it up 
I have never said I don’t want the service back, I have just said it’s never coming back.
Yes, the data is on Wrath in an altered form, but the time, effort and more importantly the cost of those things makes it prohibitive, and I don’t think Blizzard would make their money back on selling clones. Not just that but some people may have played them in TBC and gotten TBC gear gold and mats.
Why do you think they closed the service down in the first place? I think it was because it wasn’t making them much money, not even enough to cover the overheads.
The version that can be copied back from wrath to Era no longer exists. Of course some people haven’t played or even logged into them, but most have.
It’s a tough situation, hopefully blizzard decides to help these people out eventually
It would be nice but I believe it’s impossible.
Well, they did say at one point in time, classic was impossible to bring back too ?, but they did it ! . ( yes.i know you said it’s from a different version ). i just want to toss this at ya if i may ?, why can’t they just transfer the toons from wrath classic back to era classic servers ?. Mind you, in order for this to play out, 1) you must not have even played your toon !. no gear what so ever must be taken from these later servers ( tbc and wrath classic servers ). sooooo…what would be the harm in trying this ?. now…if you logged in, played that toon…got gear and so forth ?..then no…i agree…you should just start fresh ( which i did by the way ). just tossing out idea’s here is all :-).
I really wish people wouldn’t use that argument. Classic coming back has nothing to do with cloning coming back.
They had some data for Classic and used the Legion server software, so Classic NEVER came back, it was REMADE or REMASTERED. You cannot remake data that is “Permanently Deleted”. That’s Blizzard’s words not mine.
I’m 99% sure I answered this, the data is different in Classic to Wrath, what about those who played their character?
Corrupting everyone’s character in Wrath, the time and money it will cost for a small return? There are so many variables to consider, it’s not just a copy, it’s a full reworking, and that’s just those who DIDN’T play their character.
If they did then it’s VASTLY more complicated and I’m sorry but it just goes to show how little people know about how things work. You can’t just copy stuff, there is writing the code including for every single item in Wrath and TBC. Debugging it, testing it, working out what could go wrong, and fixing that. I would say at least 100,000 work hours and it would cost many millions.
Would one wrong item crash the realms? We cannot know if it will or won’t.
A business like Blizzard can’t just right click then copy and paste, it’s a difficult process.
i was not asking about ‘’ copying ‘’ ?, i was asking if they could just tansfer the toon from classic wrath back to classic era. no where did i say anything about copying the toon, then transfering it back to classic era. never say never, even blizz proved this wrong. i am pretty sure i mentioned the part ‘’ if they did nothing, no playing toon an so forth ?, but thanks for trying to bring up a point that made no difference.
With that quality of evidence I can tell you that Blizz is going to shut down the servers in early 2024 and the proof is ‘eh, ya never know, its certainly a possibility hurr hurr’.
Sure, they could, in theory, dig up clones outta nowhere but the odds of that happening aren’t anything to hang your hat on to say the very least.
People take umbrage with it because there is more mature and serious response to it as opposed to child like naivety and wishful thinking.
No you can’t and it tells you this on the support clone page. Even a small amount of research on the subject would have found you this information.
all good to me, i’ve started fresh, so to each its own :-).