Class Tuning?

[Sanghelli-dunemaul]

@Urgost-argent-dawn

Mate they can’t even get someone that knows what our abilities are. That nerf to warbringer is so comical it hurts. First, the ability they are looking for is WARBREAKER, not warbringer.

Actually hilarious, ha.

[Aliama-moon-guard]

You’re looking at numbers and statistics incorrectly. Heck, look at the fight before it, gasp! oh wow fury is top damage by a huge margin!

[Postmalorne-eranikus]

I get the initial Fury nerfs at TWW release but everything after has been unwarranted. What baffles me is you would think blizzard understands how scaling works but it seems like they dont. They should of waited till after mythic difficulties were released to hammer away at warriors.

[Broxxus-stormrage]

@Aliama-moon-guard

You’re looking at numbers and statistics incorrectly.

What does the worst single target in the game, tell me the spec and class.

@Aliama-moon-guard

oh wow fury is top damage by a huge margin!

Yeah look at queen ansurek as well, we’re ahead there by a GREAT margin. weird when we have a target cap of 8 and the raid was designed to spawn around that number of adds at 45 second intervals lining up perfectly with our cds… so that we press odyns fury and bladestorm and delete the adds before anyone else can do aoe to it.

Absolutely, but why are we below middle of the pack if we’re so far ahead?

It’s becuase if the adds spawn with a lot more health, or not in that cadence, or it’s a single target encounter; we look like poop, which is exactly the way every encounter looks; which is why we’re at the bottom.

[Aliama-moon-guard]

1 in 5 people in the world are Chinese. Therefore if you have a 5th child, statistically speaking, they will be Chinese.

[Algarda-stormrage]

I don’t think there is anything more annoying than watching your Shadow Crash miss when playing Spriest. Those next twenty seconds are disgustingly dull.

[Paeldryth-hyjal (Paeldryth)]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they are waiting on any big changes until the .5 patch.

Rogues for instance are all at the bottom, but who knows where they’ll be after .5.

[Xarrakdell-feathermoon]

Op referenced rankings, i want to see those. Not a single log

[Dispelled-garona]

@Linccstyle-sargeras

The new rankings are out, with fury dropping a massive 20 spots and being dead last, below aug by a large margin, on damage to bosses.

Why would cherry pick “damage to bosses” for any other reason other than to misrepresent how strong Fury is?

Fury isn’t anywhere close to the bottom if you look at the entire fight.

If you don’t kill adds in a fight, you lose the fight. Boss damage isn’t the only damage that matters.

Meanwhile, arms is close to the top on every difficulty. Play Arms?

[Broxxus-stormrage]

Also,

We scale like crap too. Here we are at 611-613 ilvl:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#bracket=8

Here we are at: 623-625

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#bracket=12

But those of you that don’t know… The difference from our single target to aoe rotation is pressing whirlwind every four GCDs.

By speccing into improved whirlwind,

Whirlwind [Crashing Thunder: and Thunder Clap cause / causes] your next 2 single-target attacks to strike up to 4 additional targets for 55% damage.

Problem is it’s taking 55% damage of dog water, means half of dog water… Our AOE is designed to be bad because our single target is bad. We’re only saving Grace is that by pressing blade storm and OF Bring this up quite a large margin. But if the Mom’s die about 10 seconds after the last take of blade storm, we go back to doing no damage.

We need a lot of help to be honest.

[Linccstyle-sargeras]

Fury is 21 of 26 on overall, dropping from 1 to 21, and 26/26 on boss damage.

Reading comprehension. And post from your main.

[Broxxus-stormrage]

@Dispelled-garona

Why would cherry pick “damage to bosses” for any other reason other than to misrepresent how strong Fury is?

Fury is number one in three boss fights, dead last in a few of them, and below middle of the pack in the rest.

@Dispelled-garona

Fury isn’t anywhere close to the bottom if you look at the entire fight.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#boss=2898
dead last
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#boss=2918
dead last
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#boss=2920&difficulty=4
below middle of the pack
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#boss=2921&difficulty=4
below middle of the pack

@Dispelled-garona

Why would cherry pick “damage to bosses” for any other reason other than to misrepresent how strong Fury is?

heres all the representation you need.

@Dispelled-garona

If you don’t kill adds in a fight, you lose the fight. Boss damage isn’t the only damage that matters.

i agree, but our aoe is only good if compared to other classes aoe in 5 second windows, which luckily, these waves of adds die in that time.

@Dispelled-garona

Meanwhile, arms is close to the top on every difficulty. Play Arms?

crazy take for us to point out these glaring issues with fury, and your response is, to play a different spec. thats the answer, literally respec.
you will find logs of fury topping the fight, there’s 2 fights that we stand out on, only reason that fury is doing remotely well, is a result of adds spawning wiht low hp that needs to be aoe bursted, which is the only fury can do. if the adds live any amount of time our aoe is surpassed, while were getting beat by aug evoker in single target.

you probably havent even done a raid, nor a remotely high key to have a stance on the matter.

[Linccstyle-sargeras]

So I shouldn’t discuss my classes problems, because other classes also have problems, and they are important, but warriors are not?

Did I get this right? Two things can need fixing at the same time, and again, I included many other classes/specs in my post which you skipped over, then were replied to by another person confirming/calling you out on, and now we’re here again.

I can advocate for many of the weaker classes needing changes, as I did, it doesn’t mean I’m going to go white knighting around the forums finding every post with my pitchfork, and it doesn’t mean I’m going to play Mother Teresa and completely ignore my own class until every other class is propped up, then hope I get some crumbs months later.

Such a weird poster.

[Broxxus-stormrage]

@Grizzle-eredar

Because the need of the many > need of the few

This is the equivalent of me going to Grundy Virginia…(my hometown) which is a poor, small town with a low population… And demanding more state funding because its poverty striken… And you standing there going well why would you ask for help here?!?! Richmond needs more help and has a bigger population so you don’t need any help. You should go ask there?

What?

I actively live in another town. Why would I go over there?

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Linccstyle-sargeras

Such a weird poster.

Such are the ways of double standards i guess. It’s fine when your class is positively broken, and you don’t speak about balance then. But suddenly when you get a nerf, balance needs to happen!

Typical poster.

@Broxxus-stormrage

This is the equivalent of me going to Grundy Virginia…(my hometown) which is a poor, small town with a low population… And demanding more state funding because its poverty striken… And you standing there going well why would you ask for help here?!?! Richmond needs more help and has a bigger population so you don’t need any help. You should go ask there?

Not at all what that represents. But sure, pretend like you know what you’re talking about. It’s rather amusing really.

The proper analogy would be going forth and asking for state funding for everyone and explaining that Grundy is in just as much of a need as is Richmond.

I mean…you were so…so…ehhh. Not so close but still A for effort

[Brokgarr-illidan]

16000+ posts and not one of substance, that’s honestly pretty impressive.

[Grizzle-eredar]

Guild name checks out
I mean i can swap to a <100 post alt like everyone else if it makes you feel better

[Notouching-moon-guard]

I agree that fury should get a buff as long as they take away

Some healing or leap

If you want to see a class that isn’t competing at any high level in PvP look no further than ret pally

0 representation in AWC. And only 1 in the first 200 or so of 2s and 3s

[Broxxus-stormrage]

@Grizzle-eredar

Not at all what that represents. But sure, pretend like you know what you’re talking about. It’s rather amusing really.

yeah, were all amused here, everyone is cackling at there pc’s.

@Grizzle-eredar

The proper analogy would be going forth and asking for state funding for everyone and explaining that Grundy is in just as much of a need as is Richmond.

yeah, which i am. becuase grundy has the lowest funding, same as everyone else. i can i could point out that grundy has good tasting hotdogs, which is our burst aoe. something that is only comparable when the mobs have low hp like this raid tier, or in your analogy, you’re eating hotdogs in grundy.

honestly ridiculous were even talking about that.

@Grizzle-eredar

I mean i can swap to a <100 post alt like everyone else if it makes you feel better

honestly, you spend so much time on here only trolling, definition of trolling is being argumentative and inflammatory. and thats honestly all your posts, just posting to white knight and act as if nothing is wrong with any issue someone brings up. you adore blizzard…

[Postmalorne-eranikus]

If we aren’t getting buffs then how about some more group utility or potentially give us Bloodlust to compensate? We shouldn’t be losing in damage to a spec designed around group buffs and utility like Augmentation. Other plate dps specs bring tons of utility and are in both top 10 ST and AoE. If Warriors aren’t meant to bring utility then let us bring said damage… Augmentation though, REALLY GUYS?