Amen! Preach it!!
warcraftlogs(dot)com/zone/statistics/38#metric=hps
This is what they’re clearly balancing off of. I’m not saying they’re looking at the right information, just that this is what they’re looking at when deciding the nerfs. And yes, this makes them clowns for doing so.
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Horrible change. Revert hunter nerfs… we had one BM niche… and you broke it. Yes we struggled in M+ but changes to DR in 11.0.5 would have been the way to fix not breaking single target and making it not worth bringing to raid for the minor 5% for the burn portion of a fight.
Please address this… or at least wait u til you can tune it all with the 11.0.5 changes. There is no need for this right now.
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Unless this vengeance demon hunter change is for some other type of tuning, I don’t understand the purpose.
Mastery 20% boost I’m sure is to help our baseline armor to not be as squishy but there’s better ways to do that such as boosting demonic wards from 8% to 12%. And really demonic wards should be 12% baseline. You should have the data to support this.
Speakershadowcrown has bring a VDH in Metamorphosis from 100% down to 19% with one obsidian beam. Without meta or fiery brand it’s a one shot. That damage is a little insane and buffing demonic wards will surely help.
Shattered Souls healing increased by 1% is a weird measure because we’re already overcapping our healing by 40%.
Checking a +10 mists I did randomly at 2am I did almost 40% overhealing as a vengeance.
Now I will say you do need to buff our mitigation, not our self healing.
Fraility and Painbringer should be buffed to 8 seconds baseline and Soul Crush should be bumped up to 10 seconds instead of 6 seconds. It’s too punishing if a misplay happens or if you have to deal with a different combination of damage intake and your stacks fall off from spirit bombing.
Spirit bomb - Spirit Bomb should grant 2 stacks of fraility. This would largely solve alot of VDH spikiness issues.
Elephant in the room - Soul Barrier.
Soul barrier is a pretty bad talent and buffing it by 100% doesn’t change it. You should just make it another tank cooldown mixed with bulk extraction on a 60 second cd where we can essentially suck 5 souls out that cause fire damage along with granting a shield.
Speaking of shields, blood gets can get a 3 million shield every 5 seconds and it’s depleted instantly in 1-2 globals in higher keys and soul barrier is basically a 3 million shield on a 30 second cooldown. It’s really bad and your dev team needs to understand that.
Now if the shield was your entire hp bar on a 30 second or 60 second cooldown I would understand. You could extract 5 lesser souls drawing them to you for immediate consumption as a shield for your full hp bar to protect from a tank buster or big aoe pull. However in its current state it’s really bad. Please rework our dead talents.
Really seems like class design has become more complicated than the devs apparently have the resources to manage well.
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Pushing these specific BM changes to live without the benefit of the other changes coming in 11.0.5 is just preemptively killing a spec. I don’t see the purpose of doing this a month out from the next patch. Just let BM have it’s niche in Raid until 11.0.5.
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Warriors got buffs tho across the board including fury for 0.9%
Dear Blizzard, Not many player, I would guess less than 1%, have any idea what you are tuning for. This is sad. This feels exactly like feedback from Disney after their Star Wars and Marvel fails. We have no clue for which game mode (Raid, Mythic+, PVP casual PUG, Arena, Blitz, Solo Shuffle, etc.) you are making these decisions. If like you are not even close to engagement with your players, bots come in forums and insult us for hating the changes made without any reasoning behind them, and then … Seriously, no other company on the planet other than Disney is doing what you are doing… insulting the players, disregarding their input, and chasing some statistic chart that no one else will ever see. The Bay of pigs incident happened because of insular group think… Cabinet members all sitting around the room telling eachother what the others wanted to hear… like hollywood movies, like Cabal news, like most social cliques now. Are you guys even listening to the players and when they all leave are you gonna cash out and leave?
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PvE is being dominated by Resto Shaman and Pres Evoker but Hpal gets hit with another 5% nerf? I’m sorry but this is not the solution. We are an average middle of the pack healer right now and no changes to the Resto Shaman? These balance changes are laughable. I stayed with my Hpal all through DF even hitting 3k during S3 when we were GUTTED. Now TWW seemed like the spec was going to do okay but okay is too good by Blizzard standards. I understand metas shift but we aren’t even the meta right now. Invested so much time of the early xpac grind for my main to get 11% nerfs in the first season. Too much bad balancing from Blizzard team in the recent past. VDH was left to run wild in DF, RSham now in TWW… Can’t wait to see what happens on the actual patch day but as of right now I’m going to unsub when this hits live because that’s probably the only thing that could get a response.
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In world dominated by Pres Evoker and Resto Sham the only right nerfs to make are to Hpal.
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It’s hard to understand, unless you start to realize it is not that they don’t know what they’re doing, it is intentional… They’re doing it on purpose… Why?
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Not the BM hunters … 
I agree with this, but shortsighted thinking can and will backfire on them.
I was really excited for this expansion and came back to the game for it. I’ve spent over $300 since coming back on character services and wow tokens. With Blizz proving they’re still incompetent when it comes to class design/balance, I’ve lost all faith that things will improve and I’ve cancelled my sub.
I have no desire to put up with this stupidity anymore, especially now that my playtime is more limited.
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Why so much hate for warriors this season?
This is not true. The buff to our set bonus does not outweigh the nerfs to Slayer, and the many buffs to Mountain Thane do not appear to make it competitive compared to other classes in simulations. It is also a straight loss for PvP builds as they do not use AOE. This tuning will lower the output of both Arms and Fury in both PvE and PvP content.
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have u seen the mythic + chart before nerfing Hpally ?
Have u seen the Race to world first before nerfing Hpally ?
Live right now on a stream from a top guild here is the chart for mythic queen :
Evoker 2.80 M
Evoker Number 2 2.40 M
Holy priest 1.40M
Hpally 1.22M
we are not talking about ''regular player here ‘’ but top raiding player … and clearly you still focus on that Holy pally nerf ? instead of buffing priest, monk , pally and nerf the Evoker … they clearly dominated all the race by having 2 of them all raiding
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The least you could do is give an explaination as to why you think Holy deserves ANOTHER 5% nerf, especially with where resto and pres are, currently. I understand Lightsmith is unpopular right now but an overall healing nerf while we’re already mediocre at best is actually wild to me.
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I love when they randomly nerf other healers when it’s already kind of hard to heal keys if you aren’t a shaman. The highest key a holy pally completed so far this week was a 12. Meanwhile resto shamans are doing 14s and pally somehow gets a flat healing nerf… Maybe it’s because they are focused on raid performance? But wait is it even holy pallys that are OP in raid healing or is that pres evokers?
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That’s nice but, it doesnt fix the single target problem, still the worst ST by a bit. Its not just warriors though in the game, just a lot of strange calls that don’t fix the actual issues.
Is this on top of the recent 20% buff? If so, huge and based