How’s PvP going??? Sounds like MW is doing really well lately. Did it get better?
Your the PvP god right? I figured I’d ask you.
My divine storm hits for 1804. My vanquisher’s hammer hits for 1447, and for 1852 with the conduit. My judgement hits for 1229. My TV hits for 2616.
Since divine toll makes judgement hit twice as hard, DT can hit anywhere from 2400ish to 9600 damage every minute with the conduit. Meanwhile, vanquisher’s hammer adds 3600 damage around every 30 secs, so around 7200 every minute. Vanquisher’s hammer is more stable in damage, but in return for your luck, you can also get 4HP off DT, since each extra judgement generates HP.
Assuming you get lucky with ringing clarity for the 4 judgements at 9600 damage, you also get 4 HP for either another TV or DS, which can add another 2612 for single target. This also ignores that vanquisher’s into TV requires 2 gcd’s to do its damage, while divine toll can generate all its damage in a single gcd, which means for the execution sentence build, its still more valuable, not to mention pvp.
So for a single target situation, if you get lucky with ringing clarity, DT can outperform Vanquisher’s hammer. Which is to say nothing of how incredibly potent it is in aoe situation, with its guaranteed HP generation and double damaging judgement on up to 5 targets.
There is no niche for vanquisher’s hammer, and taking it over DT is literally gimping yourself in every situation for ret and holy. For prot it’s still extremely bad, but at least it can outperform DT on purely ST situations even with ringing clarity proc’ing. At least it outperforms on pure damage.
Copied from an earlier post I made in the pally forums. How good is vanquisher’s for ret again? It’s literally useless, and so are the soulbinds due to how paladins work. Emeni is worthless for paladins because they need to bank it for later use.
How hard is it to imagine a covenant being useful in some situations but not others? A buff to necrolord can be done in a way as to not overpower other classes.
Thank you so much. All I ask is for you to keep a watchful eye moving forward!
You can always count on an inept dolt to ask questions they know the answer to.
I never said I was a pvp god, I said I was better than you. I’m flattered you consider me divine though. Little weird, but I could see how you’d look up to PVPers since you’re only proficient at playing with a scripted encounter, dbm as your teleprompter.
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I figured I’d ask you because your so important in the Monk PvP community. I see you constantly bumping the monk PvP threads because there’s so much interest in these threads.
basically 10% buff to frost mage. nothing done to destro lock. cool cool cool.
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glances at UH Deathknights
Where’s the survival hunter buff? How are you actually justifying buffing WWs?
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8% for Fury Warrior is definitely not enough… Fury AOE isn’t even that high to not consider buffing Bladestorm and Dragon Roar.
Realistically, 15% Buff should be about right. It doesn’t seem you guys understand how low Fury Warrior is on the meters.
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No, soulbinds aren’t the reason Night Fae MM Hunters and Balance Druids crush those of other covenants - Wild Spirits and Convoke being so powerful is what’s doing that. The other spells need buffs.
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What kind of buff is this? It feels like y’all are just taunting 2h frost at this point.
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doesnt… seem like a very good start, alot of specs that need help aren’t listed here and some specs need more than simple %dmg increase, which I guess means they’re doomed to ineptitude until the next “big patch” due to blizzards insistence on fixing things in giant patches all at once then ignoring it for another 8 months
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Since Cata times I´ve mained my Destro warlock and I think this is the very first time I log onto the forums to talk about this but, where are the Destro buffs? I really don´t want to play Affli, so please remember there are two other specs in the class!!
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I don’t follow you. I just smell the air and your there.
You kidding?? Everyone in the Monk PVP threads is looking up to you!! They need answers from YOU.
Did you do your daily bump for the PvP threads?? I don’t think the devs have seen them. O WAIT! The devs don’t care about pvp. Hence why we have our current PvP. I just happened to see you in this thread when I got back from dinner. I wanted to remind you to bump all your threads. O also, make sure to use enveloping mist with yu’lon.
They could literally just tack on the 120 mastery buff whenever you use fleshcraft period for that node, and keep the other buffs that pop depending on the corpse you use. That’d be a nice easy way to balance it out. Keeps it useable in all forms of content, but you still can get the cool side buffs as well if you manage to get a corpse. Still leaves it kinda weak without a corpse, but usable.
Although that’d probably make every DK suddenly roll necrolord or something. 120 mastery is damn near game changing.
I feel like there’s going to be more of these small class tuning changes in a few days
Pretty much. Nothing new to see here. More breadcrumb tweaks. Blizzard developing at best.
MAYBE it is just me and I am a noob but my destruction warlock seems total weaksauce in AOE situations. You’d think rain of fire + spamming incinerate would be strong DPS but yeah I always rank a low 3rd in group trash mobs (if not 4th or 5th!)…
On the flip side my boss DPS tends to be pretty awesomesauce considering all i do is faceroll and pray that I don’t die.
So maybe it is kinda balanced but really my dps score on large trash groups is kind of embarassing…i only earn back some modicum of respect on the boss fights.
Just my 2 cents. 
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Lmao! No bm hunter buffs?? What a JOKE
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Whoever came up with these buffs as the suggested fix for PvP should be relieved of their duties. They ignore the non-performing specs will buffing classes/specs already considered to be broken (WW Monk)
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