Class Tuning in Progress -- January 12

No hunter spec tuning.

No pvp tuning

GG

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oh look, frosties are now Slightly More Powerful

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Let me clarify this for you! I was MM from early2005 up until it got ruined in WoD! Ok are we now on the same page? BM has not changed for over 4 expansions now, so yes i think it is time for some BM love!

But thanks for chiming in with the worthless comment.

EXACTLY! But some have to chime in with snide comments because the do now know any better!

What about BM Hunter?

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I see your still the typical angry PVPer.

Your posts get likes because they are all negative posts. Funny how that works on Blizzard forums. I still hold the record for the biggest Monk threads in history as well each with 140+ likes. Both forums addressed monk concerns in the beta/alpha. I tend to be in the Monk forums because its what I do. I actually like my class unlike others.

You said in 1 of your posts you wanted to quit. Any plans on going through with that?

This isn’t hard my guy :

Necrolord Ret bad.
Necrolord Unholy Good.

Buff Necrolord Soulbind :

Necrolord Ret good.
Necrolord Unholy only option because Best by good margin.

Not a hard concept.

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Expecting changes for Demonology and Destruction just seems like wishful thing… as sad as that it.

I’m glad tuning has began, maybe next week…this is Coming from. Demo/Destro main…

The important thing we can take away from this is tuning has begun, I think Demo/Destro just needs more time to tweak things.l I personally think we need more then a Aura buff… but it’s a start.

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Nice. My Frost mage can fantasize about the 9% additional damage it’d be doing if it could get a few casts off.

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But we are, 3rd from the bottom. A tiny bit of love is warranted. Not everybody likes how MM has been playing since WoD, i sure do not.

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Thanks for looking into ww, they definetly need increased tuning sarcasm

I understand it but plenty of specs need it more that aren’t on here. Feels cheap

Really? Read above.

Thanks.

Prot Warrior & Blood DK need big buffs, Why Prot Warrior isn’t even buffed slightly is beyond me.
WW Buff is surprising too since they are top tier, what’s next, Spriest buffs?

Survival & Beast Mastery: All damage increased by 5%

Please.

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I am happy some classes are getting buffed.

BM Hunters are missing from the list. If no other changes are made, next Tuesday BM will be a strong contender for worst performing spec in the game.

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Just saying I love Plague Deviser Marileth, but his Soulbind is rubbish, even with the early second Potency Conduit Emeni pulls ahead…

Volatile Solvent is to niche compared to others that just give a flat % boost, also useless in certain fights with no adds…

His final choice Ultimate Form, is literally stuck behind casting Flesh craft for 4 seconds to reap the benefits… how often in any content mid battle do you see anyone casting Fleshcraft… rarely, I just tap it and cancel it instantly if I need a add for volatile solvent…if their are adds.

Massive rework needed… I agree 10000% with you

Can you please look into the healer crisis and rebalance them nerf resto shammy nerf disc priest nerf holy pally. Buff mistweaver and resto druid allong with holy priest (holy priest only slightly don’t need a BFA holy priest again.

UH DK Got a massive nerf 2 weeks into the game… It’s not even the top DPS anymore & is useless in Arena.

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I have very mixed feelings about Fury buffs.

Buffing all damage abilities except Bladestorm and Dragon Roar is a good idea. Arms is the “line up cooldowns” spec, Fury is the “just keep wrecking face” spec. Pigeonhole fury too much into burst CD’s for AoE and the two specs just bleed into each other. BS and DR are nice to have as options for particular cases that need it, but the spec shouldn’t need them.

That being said the flat 8% buffs to everything else is misplaced IMO. What you need to do is give raging blow a massive buff like Arms got with MS. Why? A litany of problems can all neatly be solved with that fix.

  1. Fury (like Arms) feels insanely dependent on Venthyr for good, consistent AoE and ST damage. Buffing execute sans condemn might alleviate that, but it just makes condemn players feel bad, and it’s sloppy. The problem is that Fury, the “consistent damage” spec for Warriors still has much of its damage tied to execute windows.

  2. There’s the raging blow conduit that basically no one uses because raging blow is “too low of a priority” of an attack. Translation, it hits like a wet noodle and gets completely outshined by execute during execute phase, and rampage / BT to keep enrage up.

  3. While Fury Warrior AoE should feel “consistent”, to me it feels like an Aff Lock sans Maleific Rapture. You charge in, pop blood thirst to enrage, pop WW for meatcleaver (you’ve used 2.5 GCD’s and have now done virtually 0 damage) and your next ability is raging blow. But raging blow hits like a wet noodle. So you’re waiting for Rampage, and you’re waiting for execute. It’s a lot of build up for a “consistency” class.

That Fury Warriors are so tied to execute phase is annoying (see 1) and using Raging Blow as a means to get Rampage faster is annoying because:

A: Rampage doesn’t hit as hard as execute, so it doesn’t really “go off”.

B: Rampage gives a guaranteed enrage. When you enrage, you want to dump enrage with something, use the buff on something substantive. Either you’re in execute phase or you have… raging blow. Raging blow during enrage windows should feel really good to hit. Most the fight, you’re not in execute phase so rampage -> raging blow should be a good combo rather than just “something to hit while I have a damage buff I guess”.

What I’d like to see, specifically, is a massive buff to raging blow for fury like arms got with MS, then, to remove some dependence on Venthyr and make the raging blow conduit more competitive. It would also make the Reckless Abandon talent more competitive if the buffed form of raging blow also gets this multiplier, too. Otherwise it just makes the talent even worse.

I don’t have any math for exactly how much of a buff raging blow would have to get, but my “gut” is somewhere between 25% and 30%. Could be wrong on the exact numbers, that’s negotiable, but the overall design intuition here is what’s important.

So you are in fact already finished with the 1 hour of content you’re good at, cool cool.

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