And the thing with this all is it’s ok for characters to be flawed. It’d just be nice if Vereesa were punished like Sylvanas was. I think this whole lot need therapy.
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…because Kul Tirans were living in Mainland Lordearon as well(like Jaina) and Jaina used an Alliance fleet to get them to Kalimdor(and some of those ships had Kul Tiran sailors)
Jaina is literally the reason why Kul Tiras left the Alliance. Theramore was an Alliance settlement more so than an one specific nation.
mispelled military base there.
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Exactly they were seperated from the Alliance but they still belonged to Kul’Tiras. They may have been in exiled from Kul’Tiras but they were still Kul’tirans.
If you want to believe they were just “Lorderon survivors” and not a group of orc hating sailers Daelin Proudmoore personnally recruited to persue the Orc exodus from Lordaeron, and that’s the reason they survived the Scourge. Then whatever floats your Alliance supremacy boat, it’s your delulu not mine.
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You mean Ogrimmar?
I mean, you wanna go that way and Teldrassil fits in the same.
But, really, don’t think it’s in any way a stretch to label a fortified port that the Alliance used to launch a pre-emptive attack on the horde as an Alliance military base.
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Sounds like Ogrimmar to me.
Theramore was a city of it own. Yes it was also a fairly militant city just as much as Ogrimmar but it was home to a civilian population, just like Ogrimmar. So if trying to drown Ogrimmar is considered attempted Genocides, destroying Theramore was an actual genocide.
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The mana bomb was a nuke that killed everyone at Theramore save Jaina. The bomb was also noted as one that killed everyone in Theramore across all timelines. Meaning that not just our reality, but all realities were exterminated by the Horde at Theramore. When Jaina finally snapped in the Tides of War it was because of how aggrieved she was and then she forgave the Horde under the condition that they would never ever do something like that again… then the Divine Bell happened. That finally drove her to wanting to end the Horde. Then she forgave again…
On the issue with Vereesa she like her sisters has a vindictive streak, but after the Horde Alliance War I believe as the conditions of the war had the Horde defeated the Sunreavers never really got justice and Jaina as well as Vereesa were absolved for their actions during the war as probable cause was enough to justify their actions and Aethas agreed. Even to this day, Aethas, tries his best to mend his relationship with Jaina as seen at the Trader’s area.
As far as I know that is fanon that’s based on the story having one of the side effects of the bomb being little whorls of portally stuff that allowed views into other versions of the area.
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They pursued the orcs because the orcs broke free of Lorderon slavery containment camps. They were racists, the Alliance narrative even confirms this over and over.
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No, Daelin went to Kalimdor to find out if his daughter was even alive. He only decided to attack the Horde once he found out they were they were there.
He didnt even know both were in Kalimdor. Much less had any command over Theramore.
This is completely wrong. Theramore was founded by Jaina and her people after Mount Hyjal. Daelin and his people only took it over for a brief period.
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Chronicle vol. 3 says he pursued the orc exodus but his fleet was laywasted by a srorm. The storm allowed the orcs to get away, didn’t jaina go to Kalimdir in the first place to warn the orcs of her father’s pursuit? I don’t know all the specific details but it was a huge part of Jaina’s BFA arc.
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I can’t believe two people like this and with you linking Warbringer of all thing when its lyrics state you are wrong:
When she did flee across the ocean deep
The admiral followed west
What else, but sail to save a daughter’s life
And pray she still drew breath
But there he found upon those distant shores
Enemies on the rise
But when he faced those savage foes
His daughter stood aside
She didn’t know Jaina still lived(much less that Theramore existed so it was not some colony of Kul Tiras) and he found the Horde on Kalimdor. He had no idea the Horde was even there!
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At least from what I remember from WC3, Jaina went because she was basically the one leader-ish type that paid attention to Medivh’s warning to flee EK
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That song is a sea shanty from the Kul Tiran’s perspective who sided with Daelin and saw Jaina as a traitor.
Anyways I don’t have time to argue offtopic. Daelin was right there was evil orcs in the Horde, Jaina was also right there were good orcs in the Horde.
Not all orcs deserved to suffer the actions of Garrosh we had a whole raid Seige of Orgrimmar, and two Horde civil wars about this.
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WHAT? NO! Jaina came to Kalimdor because they were told to go to Kalimdor by Medivh, she didn’t even know the Horde was in Kalimdor until after she had landed.
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Yes it is, however it literally tells you he went to Kalimdor to find his daughter and only went after the Horde when he found them there. He wasn’t initially searching for the Horde.
I think the point is more that the song is changed to be as damning as possible to Jaina, and may not be completely accurate to events if it’d make her look worse. And especially if it was possibly influenced by Azshara’s agents in KT who would definitely not want her welcomed back.
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Daelin definitely went to Kalimdor in search of Jaina and Lordaeron survivors. But the moment he found that the Horde had settled on Kalimdor, it became his top priority to try and wipe them out.
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