Chief Diversity,Equity, and Inclusion Officer

[Gedderone-hellscream]

The job no man wants to do so its always a woman lol

[Torvald-area-52]

@Lettuceprey-whisperwind

It doesn’t. No company or organization needs a Chief DIE, or DIE for that matter. It would be less offensive if they would call them what they are: Political commissars.

Well, they are in California. Who other than a political commissar is going to lead the necessary struggle sessions to stay on the right side of the state’s insane agencies?

[Barooh-faerlina]

@Zothlar-argent-dawn

How many people aspire to be a trash man?

I didn’t, but I briefly did that as a job. In the interview they asked for my work experience and I just told them I did LFR in WoW and got the job. They knew I was well experienced with carrying trash. Somehow that meme answer got me the job because the dude interviewing me played WoW and appreciated my sense of humor.

Not the most glorifying job, but a check is a check and it’s actually really chill for a job, just isn’t glamorous.

[Itaachi-proudmoore]

My friends working on California big tech Companies say this is the most useless position in the company

Majority of what these officer says remains purely on paper and weren’t able to implement any of it in real

[Zothlar-argent-dawn (Zothlar)]

@Barooh-faerlina

Not the most glorifying job, but a check is a check and it’s actually really chill for a job, just isn’t glamorous.

It wasn’t my intention to put it down by any means. I was just commenting on the assertion that women don’t aspire to carry trash, when it’s not something a lot of people dream of from either sex. That doesn’t mean it’s not necessary work or that it’s not a good way to make a living, but like you said, not glamorous.

[Miriel-dathremar (Miriel)]

Congrats to her! I wish her all the best in her role; may she make it great.

[Ghaghzull-malganis]

in other words, its a PR stunt.

[Dertbag-thrall (Dertbag)]

@Galsonna-proudmoore

thoughts on this?

Cool. Welcome aboard Ms. Hines.

[Skeithablaze-thrall]

This will have little to no impact on the game. HR positions do not work or understand how to work the production jobs.

[Persefaní-moon-guard (Persefaní)]

@Bilquis-black-dragonflight

“Chief People Officer”

This is just the new PC way to say Human Resources. The big movement to say people, not resources. Even in Microsoft Teams, they changed participants to people in the UI. Well not everywhere because their UI UAT is clearly terrible.

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

@Starlagosa-dentarg

Oh…right, knew there was a reason you were on ignore. Need to make note of who else agrees with your caveman views.

@Kalaen-black-dragonflight

No need to insult me unprovoked. Are you open to a discussion, or is ignorance the best you can do as ambassador for your people?

Sorry, I’ve been away from the computer, I didn’t see a response or an apology. Are you capable of discussing why hiring the best person for the job is probably better than hiring based on looks- or you’re only capable of shooting blanket insults?

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

@Abricot-grizzly-hills

Ignorance alone is just ignorance. Ignorance plus bigotry gets you something like this:

They never hired based solely on talent, passion and merit. They hired people who looked, acted and talked like them. Their leadership didn’t reflect their playerbase, much less their employee base.

And in case you didn’t read the court documents, their white male monoculture created an environment where qualified women and minorities were denied opportunities, were discriminated against, were sexually harassed and abused in the workplace, and who LEFT THEIR CAREERS – not because they weren’t talented or passionate or creative or dedicated, but because they were unwelcome.

If you were capable of understanding 10% of that, you’d just sit down by your bowl.

Posts like yours are precisely why we would need a person who develops, implements and oversees hiring and inclusion policies. Because you think a frat is a meritocracy.

So you’re replying to me mechanically, but I posed a question that you did not address. Does this mean you do not remember when Blizz used to hire the best person for the job then?

I understand that you’ve been emotionally worked up due to some personal problem of yours, but there’s really no need to throw thinly veiled insults at me, or change the topic if you’re going to ‘reply’ to my comment.

You’ve done nothing to create a safe and inclusive environment.

[Jolts-icecrown]

@Zothlar-argent-dawn

Being tall is an asset that often helps performance in basketball. It’s not discrimination to take the best player, and that will often be someone taller

Don’t use examples that are going to destroy your own argument.

[Verminarde-dalaran]

@Zothlar-argent-dawn

How many people aspire to be a trash man?

So I see you get my point. How many women aspire to work in tech? Tech nerds and video gamers like us know a LOT of tech women, but once you leave the tech work you would be shocked at the “normies”. I have people I work with TODAY who got mad they now have to pay their rent online and why can’t they use cash. Short version: people are different.

@Zothlar-argent-dawn

Are you trying to imply that most women in tech are just there to find a husband? I’m not even sure what you’re talking about here.

this is why I have continued the conversation with you despite you ONLY giving the standard responses from an ideologue. an NPC. You try to fit me into being an NPC of your opposition because I don’t see things your way but I am not. I am an independent thinker who uses facts learned in college combined with 40 some years in the workforce. I am not a conservative and will not respond like one. to put myself politically, I am close to Bill Mahr on many topics.

The reason I stated women were not there for the tech is I have met very few women who loved tech so much they did it outside of work. Sure they did it at work, and some were very good at it. Many men were very similar. However, there were a large subset of men who spent their time and money working with tech outside of work - they simply loved tech that much.

@Zothlar-argent-dawn

Now the more important part of this. Do you believe that being male is as inherently a part of success in the work force as height is to basketball? Are you saying that being a woman automatically makes someone less able to perform as being a short basketball player in a world of 6’+ does? It sounds like that’s the point you’re trying to make and I really hope it isn’t, because that would be pretty misogynistic.

Actually, I am saying there are factors in why things go the way they do. Maybe just maybe, there are women who focus more on their kids (not because they have to but because they want to ) than their husbands - or some single dads like me that had to. That effects performance to a similar level. Also, there is a reason why their are women sports and men’s sports - very few have a similar level of competition.

[quote=“Zothlar-argent-dawn, post:927, topic:1217742”]
I care about that if a) women want those roles and can’t get them, or can’t get them as easily as men
Again, only concerned about women.

@Zothlar-argent-dawn

b) if men are being pressured into taking those jobs against their interests.

Men are constantly pressured by society into taking roles that are against their interests in order to survive, provide for a family or simply to pay a non-working ex wife so they don’t go to jail. Men are forced to work, produce and earn every day - women have a choice to do it or not. Men simply don’t have that choice.

Again we want very similar things, yet somehow you are arguing we don’t. I want women to succeed as well and be on equal footing at the start of the race. Where we differ and I draw the line is you seem to be arguing that you want every to end in the same spot at the end of the race.

[Oldelf-tichondrius]

@Iridium-earthen-ring

Yep, it started with Occupy Wallstreet. Corporations figured out if they say the right things and check all the boxes the left mostly leaves them alone.

Its more than that. The corporations figured out that if they pitted poor white people and minorities against each other they could make it out of this dangerous time, or really make the great recession permanent along with their ever increasing share of the US economy.

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

@Jàrèd-dalaran

So you are implying that she doesn’t have the talent and skills. She does. It is listed in that article. Maybe you shouldn’t see a black woman and assume it is based on anything but talent and skills? When you do, you make it awfully apparent that you don’t think they would have the same skills as someone else with nothing to go on but looks and a LIST OF HER CREDENTIALS right there in the article. Wonder why you would have your stance unless it was something else…eh who knows. It sounds about white I guess.

I’m not implying anything I didn’t ask. What I asked was do you remember when the game was really good because they hired based on talent, passion and merit instead of looks, plumbing, and preference?
Perhaps the person in the article is great at seeing USA is 75% white, Western and Chinese gamers are 75% male and making a great decision based on that data. Unlike you, this person’s skin colour and plumbing isn’t important to me.

@Jàrèd-dalaran

I do stand by it, sure sounded about white to me

White jokes, that’s where we are in 2022 presumably discussing DEI

@Jàrèd-dalaran

Or are you unable to read, and understand context. Oh wait, you can’t. nevermind

If you’re going to ‘reply’ to me (especially in multiple posts?) then answer the question I asked at minimum plz.
Your multiple scathing and disorganized responses shows you’ve obviously been emotionally triggered. Is it best to write back in that state? Write back in white person jokes?
Who appears more hireable right now, you or me? Do you think Kristen Hines should hire you or hire me given the decision?

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

@Jolts-icecrown

@Zothlar-argent-dawn

Being tall is an asset that often helps performance in basketball. It’s not discrimination to take the best player, and that will often be someone taller

Don’t use examples that are going to destroy your own argument.

It was an analogy for folks who don’t understand the problem with hiring based on looks, plumbing and orientation, instead of hiring the best person for the job.

Weird, this isn’t the first time I’ve noticed you existing in forums solely for the sake of trolling

[Paeldryth-hyjal (Paeldryth)]

Still smiling over the guy that said he didn’t want to change anything because the minorities may get revenge.

He basically acknowledged they don’t get a fair shake, but doesn’t want to do anything about it and justifies it with a fantasy cooked up by propaganda.

[Réynn-emerald-dream]

Some of ya’ll got way too much time on your hands. Literally a few of you have been bickering back and forth for hours at a time. Your family misses you lmao, holy Christ.

[Callieamaya-proudmoore]

@Réynn-emerald-dream

Literally a few of you have been bickering back and forth for hours at a time.

More likes days at a time.