good old fake news believer! (his family was broke, and was why he moved to canada)
if you read his history you find out he has worked a blue collar job to building and running/selling several companies
Lol he was never poor or blue collar. His father owned stakes in emerald mines there in Africa. It is a nice story he tries to pretend he lived, but its a story. Same as how Trump was a successful business man. Except with steaks, planes, casinos, water, and vitaminsâŚ
To be fair, the Muskovites are their own weird nerd thing transcending politics.
Thereâs been plenty of people complaining about him from the left for years. But there are some people who buy into some idea that heâs going to change the world, and not just an idiots who will blow tons of money on a lot of stupid projects along side the actual successful ones heâs bought
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He was born in 1971 in South Africa to a wealthy father and model mother (Canadian). His father was well educated (engineer, pilot, sailor, consultant, and property developer) He owned half of a Zambian emerald mine. Between that his fatherâs other pursuits, the family was very wealthy. He was raised there in South Africa under the apartheid system until he was college age when he would be required to do military service. At that point he used his motherâs citizenship to get to Canada where he stayed with a cousin in Saskatchewan and worked labor jobs for a year. He went on to Queens College, then U Penn where graduated with a Bachelors of Arts in Physics and a Bachelors of Science in Economics. He was accepted to a PhD program at Stanford but quit a couple of days in - and off went his business career.
His family was not broke, and that is not why he moved to Canada. He moved to avoid military service.
There certainly are questions about how much his family contributed to his business success once he left SA, but to say he was not born into a wealthy family, or grew up wealthy, would be inaccurate. My understanding is his mom divorced his dad, he stayed with dad until moving to Canada, and is now estranged from his father.
As for the racial accusations. That comes from the lawsuits about workplace discrimination and harassment. How much he knows about the day to day workplace stuff I donât know, but his companies are under scrutiny and have been for years.
This. He is a very odd fellow and has his own following drawn from all types of backgrounds. I would not call him right or left exactly and he very much will do whatever he wants and change his mind overnight on things.
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lmao I say⌠lol even
I just wish there was a way to contain an idiot like that with too much money. I just always think back to a story about a tesla plant and how they donât use the universal hazard labeling for stuff because Elon doesnât like the color yellow. We need some of the Scandinavian style sliding scale fines based on wealth or something so heâs canât just pay to do illegal stuff without it actually impacting him.
He got rich from investments at a young age. The apartheid stuff is debunked. Also, heâs not an idiot, he is a very smart person.
Technically Trump was a successful business man.
You seem to grab onto dated talking points and never let them go. I can understand everyone has their biases, but wrong is still wrong my dude.
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What is too much money? And how is that a thing? And how does that make sense to you?
Well in this case itâs someone who can put people in danger because he thinks standard hazard labeling is ugly and nothing can stop him from doing it because the fines will never have an impact on him
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Eh, this is false. Litigation can stop him. The states that he sets up shop can stop him. Obviously weâre going off of your allegations, but assuming theyâre true, there are still laws that protect the people that work around him.
But I donât see how money gives him any kind of safety net, if anything Elon being Elon grants him more scrutiny than heâd otherwise get.
He said it wasnât true, and he said he got rich at a young age. Funny how HE says it and everyone believes itâŚ
He couldnât prove he was a billionaire in a lawsuit filed against a news reporter for saying he wasnât a billionaire. He isnât successful. A successful billionaire doesnât need a political party to pay his legal bills, or bankrupts a casino, a business model that is designed to separate people from their moneyâŚand he still bankrupted it.
Not just him, but corporations too. The fines they pay are a drop in the bucket for the appearance of it. It does not impact them and when push comes to shove, the Govt shovels tax money at the corps to bail them out of whatever they got into lately. If not directly giving them money, they give them massive tax incentives instead so that they donât pay taxes on the wealth. Imagine being Amazon and paying no taxesâŚdespite the heavy use of tax funded infrastructure and transportation, resources, etc.
Not sure what the answer is.
Also - no Yellow hazard warnings?! I mean the reason it gets attention is because it is a terrible color. I donât like it either which makes me notice the warning signs. I would thing OSHA would not allow that.
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Banks, air lines, and not to mention the countless subsidies we give to oil companies, when they make plenty as isâŚ
Higher taxes and regulation on these companies and closing loopholes. Then if they try to leave the country? Put a high tax on anything to do with the company that comes in the country. We need to stop bending over backwards for these places pretending they do us the favor. This asinine trickle down mentality has failed miserably.
No, we actually can see what he invented or invested in and the timeline. I donât know why you wouldnât believe it. 
A business going bankrupt and a person going bankrupt are two different things. A small portion of the businesses he ran werenât super successful, big deal.
They wouldnât, which is why this is either misinformation or bullplop.
Has he actually invented anything other than a worse version of a subway that could never work as envisioned?
I believe thereâs merit to the underground roads thing. I understand you donât like the guy, but we can praise people for the good things they do, it wonât kill us.
He was born rich. Had everything paid for. Inhereted the family business real estate empire and hundreds of millions of dollars.
He has 6 bankruptcies, including the casinos.
His list of failed businesses is pretty long
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Trump Steaks
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GoTrump
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Trump Airlines
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Trump Vodka
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Trump Mortgage
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Trump: The Game
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Trump Magazine
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Trump University
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Trump Ice
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The New Jersey Generals
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Tour de Trump
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Trump Network
And does not even include real estate ventures where he lost money on them and sold them. His Trump Org charity was also closed for fraud, fined millions, and the Trump kids have to take classes.
What he was successful at was marketing himself and keeping his name in the media. It led to a successful TV show which further built his image.
And image based on a house of cards at this point deeply in debt, most of it to foreign parties.
He still has massive income, donât get me wrong. He just also owes a lot.
The most successful thing he has done, is sell himself - and he is very good at it. There is a market that very much wants that. He was not wrong when he said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and get away with it. Those who are connected and/or have money, almost NEVER pay real consequences for anything they do. It is the urchin who steals a loaf of break who loses the hand.
It seems he does not have an engineering degree, although that is not really needed if someone is smart. What he has done is make a lot of wise investment decisions at the right times. He got in early on the dotcom things and it took off from there. I have no doubt he got a lot of his current wealth from his own business choices. It can be true that he was both wealthy as a kid AND made successful business choices as an adult.
He is an odd duck though - and his personal statements at times baffle me. Like accusing a rescue diver getting kids out of a cave of being a child sexual abuser because the dive team said âno thanksâ to some machines Musk wanted to use - that would not have worked in that cave.
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I was referring to their abortion restrictions and how other states are following suit.
I have no idea why you would comment on all this unless you are unaware of that?
âŚthe only business that was âsuccessfulâ was his real estateâŚthat its been looking like he has been using to lie and evade taxes on, which is a crimeâŚthat isnât successful either. If you canât succeed in the law, you arenât successful. He is a criminal that has the ignorant fooled.
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