I don’t know how you are disagreeing with me about myself. There are people who will do this. We saw it in Wrath, it’s why the deserter debuff was added to kicks.
Well, first of all, the 15-minute queue CD timer that already exists for everyone would prevent that, but you’re ignoring that (like a lot of other things).
Right, but for some reason you’re ignoring me repeatedly saying I want there to be more punishment than a 30 minute debuff and pretending like I want no punishment at all because I think the 30 minute debuff is not enough of a punishment.
It wasn’t, but it was never “sometimes for days”, it was up to two hours.
You are assuming that a vote-kick would lead to an account suspension. That isn’t the case, or it’s giving players the ability to dish out account penalties. Being bad isn’t actionable. Being grating isn’t actionable. Getting kicked is not a rule violation.
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Vote kicking because of bad mogs should be allowed.
Naw that won’t get abused to hell and back by trolls.
Blizzard would just say “It is not possible to abuse this system” and people would go “oooh ok”.
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Great news it already is allowed 
We’re talking LFR and mechanics and we should really apply this to the current raid and how it functions. I’ve only done a little LFR this season, but the fights are clearly steered to… if the majority of the group knows what they’re doing… they’ll carry the slack for those who are learning or ended up on the floor for whatever reason. Normally it’s actually a tanking issue and not a mechanics issue when the entire raid wipes and I don’t think it’s good to kick people who are trying to learn. I actually (most of the time) have patience when a person is struggling to “do it”. I myself have watched videos to get the jist or things… but it’s nothing and doesn’t compute till I’ve really went through it… and sometimes I need to go through it more than once… and then I might forget a little thing… and then remember again.
I’ve done a lot of heroic raiding this season and I’ve watched people get booted for any little slip up and I think it’s honestly sad. I’ve gotten booted for my mistakes as well… and I take it like a champ normally, I do realize people “expect better” in heroic and If I messed up and that’s it… so be it. I think this mentality has absolutely zero place in LFR though.
I didn’t, There’s no post floating around where you saw me saying “please Blizzard give all queued content a hard 30 minute debuff timer”. They should have left it alone or moved the loot to the last boss… there were voices of reason in there too that Blizzard chose not to listen to.
My personal experiences are irrelevant to a lot of posters here.
Seeing as this is the kind of proof you want in previous threads, no I’m not going to be able to convince you of anything.
Because Blizzard strengthening the deserter debuff went clearly wrong imo. We need to take a step back and relax it overall and in the appropriate situations. Perhaps Blizzard needs to send a clear message that an abuse of their services will have consequences instead of a “any reason is a good reason” mentality for queued content.
Well yeah, that’s what proof is. Proof isn’t just you making a claim.
Video proof is an excessive ask.
Not really, not in 2025. One person actually did provide video proof of their encounters one time. It showed they were the problem and the kicks were justified. Multiple kicks, all justified.
But hey, I’m open to different kinds of proof, but again, you making a claim that something happened isn’t proof.
Batman couldn’t have gotten those vods out of me.
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Yeah? Where’s the proof? Simply curious.
Last time I convinced GD there was an issue was when I was gaslit by multiple people that there wasn’t a one shot mechanic killing people in a time walking dungeon. I was damn near harassed for proof until I provided a screen shot. Three times in a thread I had to repost it because no one actually reads a lot of those huge threads… just the beginning and then skips to the end making a good majority of relevant content/conversation breeze right over their heads.
Are you asking me for the specific proof that guy posted? It’s on his Twitch account but I’m obviously not going to link that.
So you agree proof is necessary to prove your point?
Okay, I guess? And that’s the only way you’d have video proof… is if a person was a streamer… which most of us aren’t.
That was an issue I could at least go back and replicate. A random vote kick is a odd random issue that I’d be surprised if a majority of people could actually provide proof of, certainly not the person being kicked who is completely unaware of anything.
I do however have proof of vote kicks and some inappropriate “reasons” that were screen shotted. There’s another branch of the vote kick that needs to be changed. A simple drop down of “common” reasons is all that’s needed. Clearly.
It’s not.
Fine, but that doesn’t mean I need to assume they’re telling the whole truth when they post their story on the forums.
Fine, but it won’t change much. People kicking for “inappropriate reasons” are still going to click yes if the vote comes up for “other” from a drop down list.
Doesn’t mean that they aren’t. But my personal experience really doesn’t change a bit one way or another if Joe blow on the forums thinks I’m lying when I’m not.
Just a bad look for the game as a whole and it is abusive to put inappropriate reasons into the kick field which could/should be prevented by the “system” entirely.
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One side always demands it yet never provides their own.
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