Challenge Mode Dungeons Re-open on Tuesday -- Update July 28

This is the most concise overview of the problem so far.

Respect the original Gold Completion timers that were legitimate through a smidge of data-scrape, or even do something unorthodox (review + assignment, or remove the Realm First).

Please!

This is the sort of effort-post this issue needed.

Legitimately, solution 3 NEEDS to be the one blizzard goes with. The integrity of the Realm First achievements was fundamentally compromised due to the Temple bug, and as such you guys need to just strike it from the criteria. Award Realm First to the first team on each realm who got the remaining 8/9 first - it’s easy, it’s elegant, and most importantly, it’s fair.

Removing all the progress everyone has made, then re-releasing CMs on a Tuesday afternoon (after people competing for it already spent their PTO on launch the week prior) defeats the whole point of the realm firsts. Like Mystia said, instead of the marathon of playing well for hours and hours on end, leveling, gearing, and finally executing; it turns the achievement into a test of ā€œWhich team can log on the fastest (while also living in a timezone where they aren’t stuck at work)ā€.

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This is genuinely outrageous. It was well known and documented on beta that everyone was getting the gold achievement on any clear. How the hell did it make live and how the hell are legitimate times getting hit in the crossfire?

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This is why realm first achievements were removed. Too much toxicity surrounding them and no lifers engaging in unhealthy behavior. The only people mad are the ones who were able to no-life and get ahead of 99.99999% of players so they can do it first. They don’t mean anything anyways. The sad thing is these players dont realize 99.9999999% of players don’t care lol. Go to a dead realm, level first amongst 20 people and get realm first. I wish they would have just removed them in mop instead of waiting till wod. I promise you’ll be okay though. People are just mad because there was no competition to getting these realm first achievements. Just do it again, if you’re skilled that is.

Too true king. While we’re at it, let’s remove gladiator mounts and titles. 99.9999999% of players don’t engage in the arena system, so might as well remove those. After all, playing this game leads to unhealthy behavior, so let’s save those poor souls from themselves.

While we’re at it, lets axe Heroic difficulty mount rewards from end bosses. I mean it doesn’t mean anything anyway right? Any mount goes just as fast, so who cares what it looks like? You know what? Even better, let’s just get rid of different raid difficulties all together. They just lead to a more toxic environment that rewards no lifers over people who just wanna walk in blind ya know?

I agree with you, that it’s deeply sad when people find extrinsic motivation to engage with this game and it’s systems that don’t revolve around logging in once per week, doing a single raid, then logging off til next week.

Thank god for folks like you and I , who are among the 99.9999999% of players who don’t care about this sort of stuff, and would never spend our finite time on this earth typing on a forum about just how much we don’t care about it. After all, it doesn’t affect us, right?

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most ppl posting in here are from mega servers

the guy u are replying to is literally from benediction

this was so close that both the shamans got realm first 90 shaman achievement, both groups were all 90 within 5 minutes of eachother

Is this just 1 dude posting over and over

The fact rewards were being given incorrectly means none of those achievements are legitimate. There’s still the chance to do world firsts.

all of our runs are ahead of the gold timer, we didn’t even know this bug existed because we didn’t fail any of the dungeons

Imagine caring this much about a 15 year old game, then being this distraught your 15 year old pixels are gone. My god these classic releases are embarrassing to see people so invested in something so worthless.

If I have to see another ā€œworld firstā€ or ā€œrealm firstā€ on a classic launch I’m gonna gouge my eyes out. Realm first and world first simply mean ā€œmost degenerateā€. The game isn’t hard, congratulations you are jobless living with your parents at 43 and you can stay up to play wow. Do you really want a title to honor that?

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"The game isn’t hard, congratulations you are jobless living with your parents at 43 and you can stay up to play wow. "

ironic considering you have nearly 1000 posts on the official blizzard forums

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How does forum reposts relate to doing 85-90 in one session then spamming cm dungeons?

If I have 1000 posts which take approx 1min over the coarse of 15 years. How is that comparable to someone going insane try hard sweat lord and putting in 2 18 hour days for a ā€œrealm firstā€

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I am simply pointing out there is some evidence you may be jobless and 43 and living with your parents. Apologies if I offended you!

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Good one, nice job posting on alts to try and defend yourself.

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This is my main and legitimately the first time I’ve ever posted on the official WoW forums. You chose to spend approx 16 hours over 15 years posting on the forums, whereas I never have before yesterday. Let’s say I’ve spent zero hours posting on the forums. Instead, I chose to spend about 20 hours leveling to 90 and trying for realm first CMs, something I’ve never done before and enjoyed doing. Weird how different people choose to do different things with their time, isn’t it?

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20 hours over 15 years, 20 hours in 1 day. You also said 18 hours practicing on beta, so we’re up to 36 hours. Who knows how much additional time you actually did. It’s more embarrassing you feel it’s necessary to post on alts to pretend to agree with your mains posts.

But you go for it, get that realm first that no one else cares about but I’m sure you’ll be putting it on your resume thinking it’s actually an accomplishment.

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I did not say I spent 18 hours practicing on beta. That was a different poster. Good thing all those hours spent posting on forums didn’t contribute anything to your reading comprehension.

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Just cause it’s an alt char doesn’t mean it’s not you.

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keep being delusional and thinking every single person posting on this thread is me just because you need it to fit your narrative

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Well awfully convenient your very first post ever in history is defending a random stranger who said ā€œI know lifed something dumb and lost my rewardā€. That’s suddenly the post you want to jump in on and rush to save the poor innocent soul. There’s 46 posts like this a day. Not fooling anyone.

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my very first post is the third one in this thread (i know you have difficulty reading so thought i’d point it out), upset about the egregious reset Blizzard decided to make to challenge modes, because frankly i am pissed with their decision and felt compelled to post about it. according to the other posts in this thread, looks like others felt similarly. it just so happens a number of other people agree with me and it isn’t some large alt army conspiracy that you wish it was. i know you wish so badly we were losers with no lives, but it is the opposite, and we just enjoy this aspect of classic wow despite it being 15 year old content. it may be difficult for you to understand, however, as this is something you will never be able to achieve, as you are too busy trolling on official Blizzard forums.

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