I agree. I believe Wrath will be the last Classic release.
Cata was the major Client upgrade and overhaul, and it makes little sense to release it as it is essentially retail. Most of the main QoL features and the upgraded graphics of retail occurred in the Cata release.
Cata Classic would essentially be retail with the content rolled back.
All dungeons are “dated” content in the sense that none of them are end game. Barely anyone even does heroics anymore. At most there are people who do whatever the daily is. If you still need to do a heroic to get some not great starter gear you are going to have a bad time and since RDF doesn’t exist to facilitate the leveling of new alts the problem will only get worse as time goes on.
I don’t like what you are saying but I agree with it.
Don’t matter though, I’m in the expac I will only ever be again. (For the most part)
If Lich dies, I’ll just go back to classic every other month just to satisfy the fix for WoW. I would never invest in meaningful progression again. (what’s the point when on a whim they’ll negate it all with something new anyways)
I am alting it up with toons between 59 to 74, doing quite a few dungeons (mixed occasionally with questing, which I like). Not sure what level 80 dungeoning is like but arguably, heroics would become dated content when heroic+ comes out.
I was thinking RFD would be ok for Vanilla/TBC especially those on smaller servers. My preference would still be to not use it for current expansion.
I hated that they didn’t offer TBC Era servers. When they announced that it wouldn’t happen, people kinda gave up raiding because the mindset was “what’s the point if our progress is going to be erased with WotLK launch”.
I think Blizzard misses the point by making Classic a strictly progression experience. Casual players will still be rushed and not experience everything they want.
If WotLK Era servers does not happen, I probably would become ultra casual and spend my game time largely elsewhere.
Im on one of the most populated servers in classic.
also how is that an acceptable answer/argument that ‘your server is prob just dying’? its a video game. it should be playable at any time of any day. were literally paying a subscription fee to play. If its not playable for whatever reasons then something is seriously wrong. Having a dying server should not be a hinderance to being able to play a character you put time into.
Ever wince original WotLK, new players rarely enter a game after an expansion launch. Vet players would probably already have established the alts they wanted to play before expansion launch. Joyous Journeys was a great opportunity to get your alts ready.
Smaller population doing low level content shortly after an expansion launch does not mean the game is dead. It’s just people focusing on doing WotLK content.
What are your thoughts on leaving a Wrath Classic Realm up forever, locked in on the last phase of Wrath indefinitely?
Kris Zierhut : That is something we’ve already seen players starting to ask for, so we are aware there are players out there that would want a Wrath Forever type of realm, and of course we do have the Classic Era realm. It’s something we’re looking at, it’s something we’re not sure we can deliver on just yet. We honestly have to examine it and see how many players actually want it, and if players really do want it, the best way is for players to go out there on social media and let us know. If there is enough demand for it that we can see, it will have a big impact on our decision.
I agree with the frustration and it has more to do with the lack of cross server raiding/dungeons. Which is something blizzard needs to implement if they are going to keep the servers locked. So get to it blizzard or else, lose subscribers to frustration like this guy.
Unpopular opinion, but each “expansion” takes stuff away. Expansion d is out, no one wants to run raids from Expansion c anymore, etc. But Cata flat out killed all the vanilla content, in terms of quests. I was almost done with the Scepter of the Shifting Sands quest chain, took a couple months off, and came back to find I could no longer complete it. I’ve HATED Cata ever since and stopped playing until Classic came out.
What you’re talking about is 2010 Cataclysm. We’re only around 2 and a half months into Wrath and so many changes are already out to what many would argue is an expansion that doesn’t need many changes. Seeing Blizzard’s new “#somechanges” model for Classic, there’s no reason why they can’t retune or fix some of the common anti-Cata arguments you’ve listed here
They didn’t leave TBC servers when it moved to Wrath. Why would they leave Wrath servers when they move to Cata? I can see one way that could happen: if they can charge players to copy a character over to some eternal Wrath server. Other than that, everyone is going to Cata.
imo people talk about when they left the game its generally in these 4 patches OG WOTLK MOP Legion i personally think those 4 will be the forever servers for that reason.