Casual vs 1% should stop

Your personal preference is creating a massive problem in game. I’m sorry you like broken games with broken over complex power systems that also lock out RPG elements, but it doesn’t change the reality of it.

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thats funny cause me, my entire guild and everyone I know in game are deciding on their cov souly by which cov offers the best dmg ability for their class/ms and have to throw their class fantasy visions out the window because they dont want to play a handicapped build.

So your idea of picking a cov for rpg elements is COMPLETELY BASS ACKWARDS

I know my preference is wrong but how is me liking character development over avatar loadouts creating problems for the game?

Because your view is that character development cannot occur without locking in choices, even if they happen to be incorrect choices.

Character development has nothing to do with permanent talent and conduit choices. Legion got it sort of right in this regard : there were no wrong choices. Your artifact traits and relic and legendaries never impacted your Class Hall choices.

There was proper separation of RP elements and character progression. As it should be. Numbers and levels and stats have nothing to do with what RPGs are actually about : Role Playing.

All I said is that I like developments that go in that direction. I’m not on the development team. Chill out bro.

I am chill. I’m explaining why your “views” are anti-RPG.

That is your choice. If you choose to pick the “op” dmg ability and ignore the rest of the tree and all of the available utility that is fine. It’s short sighted, but fine.

Yes and because of this reason EVERYONE will be taking the same covenant.
You know what happens when new people join the beta?? They spam /5 the test channel “whats the best covenant for x spec”

It’s funny you think that the way this game has been played for 16 years is “short sighted”. Because that way of playing is what leads players to success.

Picking all the “wrong” choices means being stuck in LFR or at best normal, and never getting anywhere, with 10th Percentile parses.

There are literally players that complete content that play with their feet. If you need something to blame, go for it, but if you are stuck in heroic raiding and parsing green, it’s 100% a you problem.

No. Sorry.

Look at any of the 200 Survival Hunter parses, and they were all done during Farm runs, some hunter doing shenanigans on farm bosses his whole guild massively overgeared and could roll over.

There’s a reason : Survival is 40% behind BM. It’s a meme spec. During prog, when a phase needs to be pushed, adds need to die, and mechanics still need doing and learning, the hunter is BM.

That’s how this game has been at pretty much every level since day 1. Even at the most casual levels, most people recognize this. The first thing to get kicked in an LFR where bosses are not dying is “Low DPS”.

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There never was any sort of movement against min-maxing before, so it’s not like it is something that became a bit more popular. This came out of nowhere, almost as though it was orchestrated to keep people fighting with each other, rather than asking the hard questions about what the hell is going on inside the Sanctum Sanctorum…

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You do know, that its possible to look up logs from previous updates and see numbers right? You might want to before you throw mis-information out.

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Yeah.

Here you go. “Misinformation” that just so happens to be true.

This time, don’t edit out all of the relevant information, like what fight this is.

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Dude, it’s pretty much all fights :

I don’t get what you’re trying to win here. Survival and MM have been meme specs all patch long (and really, all expansion long, MM had like a few weeks where it was good).

warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#boss=2331&dataset=80&region=2

Mythic Raden. Post nerf 1. Yeah. 40%…

warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#boss=2335&dataset=80&region=2

Mythic Shad. Post nerf 1. Surv ahead of bm…

warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#boss=2345&dataset=80&region=2

Mythic Illgy, a horrible fight for Surv, 18% behind the top, destro, how much behind bm?

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The thing is, you’re comparing BM on a progression boss vs Survival on a farm boss with memers in a farm raid.

More failure :

BM still on top.

They are roughly the same kill dates…

You are linking the r1 parse. LOL you think that is an indication of balance? You are shocked that there are less melee than ranged?

There were 10x the number of mages or locks compared to arms, arms must be dead! Oh wait…

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Look at the actual number of parses. Realise that BM parses will come from all range of the raiding spectrum, Survival parses will come from top guilds with top players that progged as BM and are now doing parse cheese…

And still can’t beat BM.

Look dude, if you have no clue how raiding works, just shut up about raiding. You’re not going to win this, you’ll only make yourself look even more foolish.