As a casual scumbag… I get upgrades every day. Am I swimming in ilvl? No, but my main is currently ilvl 172 and that gets him through all the content a casual scumbag like myself needs to do. You get plenty of gear between World bosses, WQs, mission table and your cov campaign story (mainly through your cov story).
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I just did, well also including earlier today, my three callings. This is interesting and maybe ill document it (im 175, so plenty of upgrade scope).
Calling 1: 171 outlaw conduit (sin spec).
Calling 2: 1k gold.
Calling 3: 1k gold.
Rewards outside: 158×3 items, 70 soul ash (lvl 4, completed lvl 3 earlier in week both wings), bunch o’ trash.
Time for each calling in world: 20 to 30mins.
Torghast calling:1.5 hrs (can be done on lvl 1 much faster obviously, but why???)
Players aint logging on for this, dudes.
Just to be clear, this doesnt feel particularly abnormal from previous turn-ins (even though i havent itemised it before). But i might from here on in.
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One hour a day, the best mmo for you is minesweeper
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Just have to say I love the gnome in a top hat look.
While I’m somewhat enjoying M+ with those I know IRL, a lot of this is true. Without PvP weapons I’d be at a loss right now.
Perhaps I say this too much, but Shadowlands is a beautiful expansion and I love the theme; once it’s over, I don’t see myself continuing due to the systems that constantly strip away your power.
WoW currently seems like the story of Hercules, but it keeps resetting. Every expansion, he loses his divine powers and becomes mortal again…and Zeus is like “heeey let’s get that power back! Except this time it’s a little different! Isn’t this fun?”
Previous to these mega-power systems and external power, it was only the gear that became out-dated. Yes, stat-squishes seemed needed at a certain point, and the leveling squish was a good thing IMO, but the external power systems are completely unnecessary.
How about innovating or at least adding to talent trees? You know, that part of your character you don’t part ways with guaranteed every 2 or so years.
Ultimately, your comment on this being Activision and not Blizzard says all it needs to in regard to this topic. External power systems keep people grinding, because character power is one of the biggest driving forces in an MMO.
You can’t keep adding every expansion without bloat, I understand that, but there ARE ways to give character’s progress without castrating them inbetween expansions.
That said, I’m not playing this game without Soul Shape, or in an expansion with a worse theme. There is an extremely high chance I never play WoW again after SL; not guaranteed, but there’s too many conscious design decisions that make me realize it’s time to move on for sure.
The slowness of balance changes, and the unwillingness to even have things within 20% of eachother. Maybe all their man-power is focused on the next expansion? Next content patch? I don’t know.
There are parts of the game I like, such as a paced-out campaign storyline. I dislike how much is tied to it, but whatever.
Anyways, I could rant forever and make a ton of suggestions for what I think they could do, but I’ll end my post here and be off. I do plan to enjoy this expansion for what it’s worth, but again, I’m likely done after this.
In terms of how and what I want to play, and progressing accordingly: this expansion is working just fine for me, tyvm.
I am sorry to say it, but Shadowlands is the worst thing to happen to WoW since Cataclysm. It is not solo player friendly in any way, it’s boring, it’s dull, the zones are tiny, i am actually going to change my stance and say shadowlands is worse than cataclysm. Ive played since 2009, i decided to give this expansion a shot, I got bored with it within two weeks and i havent logged on in more than a week, i think.
Maybe we should just start a guild of people who dont like shadowlands so we can hate it together and maybe start to like it.
Edit: I am pretty convinced this expansion is not going to have much more content added, or they are going to drag everything out as long as they can to make the expansion last… as long as people keep buying tokens for legendary stuff that is.
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What are you unable to do?
Genuinely confused. This is one of the busiest year for me (i know weird considering everything going on but it is what it is).
Pretty much busy 50 to 60 hours a week with RL since the xpack launched and i’m managing to do everything i want in the game anyway, except alts.
These criticism are so vague. Not much a dev can do with it.
Or just take a break? Wasn’t a big fan of either Legion or BFA personally so i skipped most of both. I’m back because they 180’d most of their decisions from back then.
Define “chance”?
Is chance being competitive in m+?
Is chance being competitive in arenas?
Is chance being competitive in rbgs?
Is chance being competitive in mytichs?
Then no you don’t have any chance. With 1 hour a day you can be casual though. Do a +7 here and there, maybe do some arenas cap conquest and hit 1400 then 1600 to upgrade your item. You will still get your weapon. In the worst case scenario you will get your conquest weapon in week 3. Isn’t it how it is supposed to be? Or do you want to put only 1 hour a day and expect to have the same outcome who sinks 3-4 hours?
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There are a lot of things you can do in WoW with an hour per day, but serious endgame progression is not one of them. And I speak from the perspective of one of those people with a very uneven playing schedule. I just don’t expect to raid. I can barely fit a Torghast run into my schedule. But I love to PvP.
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I am not trying to be detailed or give the devs feedback, i stated an opinion.
Your criticisms of legion and BFA are so vague.
Not everyone spends the entirety of their free time playing games, hence the point of this thread. I work 50-60 hours a week as well, im a sheet metal guy and construction never stopped due to the pandemic. Comparing your life to another’s is pointless everyone has different responsibilities that cause them to have less and less free time.
The biggest lesson I learned in my life, which was something said to me by a former boss during an argument, he said, “NOT EVERYONE IS YOU!”… once you understand that, you will look at many things differently. My life changed that day.
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Dude it’s 1 hour a day. Is there really an expectation to get somewhere with that kind of play time?
Oh i understand that, which is why i don’t really go and whine about things. I just come and go as i see fit depending on weather something suits me or not.
I’m just saying that saying “you can’t do anything in the game if you don’t nolife” is fallacious. I make the choice to focus most of my free time on the game right now, which means i don’t watch T.V or go out much (not like its possible) or other things like that. Its just WoW and my dog and i’m happy like that.
I just think its to be expected from an online game to require some degree of involvement at this point. When it doesn’t a large portion of its playerbase are just left to dry. Point made during Warlords of Draenor.
I would honestly say that WoW is designed around a minimum of at least 6-10 hours a week if you don’t want to fall behind. 2 layers of Torghast is like 1-1.5 hours… then you have to do Renown quests… that’s another 2 hours… Maw weekly/daily is probably 30-60 minutes… then you have to do raids/dungeons/etc… command table stuff…
Eventually the people pushing everything run into a wall where you’re basically time gated behind great vault stuff for your next item upgrade.
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Of course, i play mostly on Saturday mornings for a few hours before my kids get up, and maybe on Sunday as well. Until Shadowlands, it was enough.
I agree, but like in the last two expansions that you said you sat out of, we had ways to gear for every playstyle and it kept players of all types playing. I didnt raid in BfA, i did world quests, leveled alts, and wasted my time unlocking allied races. there was enough to keep me logging in, Shodowlands just doesnt have enough reward for the 8 hours a week i have to play, and the hour the OP has. this is the first expansion where this was the case and for long time players it really breaks our hearts.
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1 hr a day? Sooo how is this expansion different from any others? If you only play 1 hr a day then how did you survive BfA, Legion, MoP, Wrath, BC, Vanilla?
Also, you can still do everything. Anyone who plays 1 hr a day and thinks they should be able to be/have as much as people who put in a lot more time shouldn’t be playing mmos then. You can do everything you want doing an hour a day but will take time.
So tired of these entitled people who feel they should have rank 3-4 legendary, Renown 15, etc. yet only play 1 hr a day vs those who actually put in a lot more time.
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I do see the problem with the fact WQs aren’t as rewarding as they should be, same for the Covenant set. They should definitively revisit that.
But outside of that i don’t really see how its any different in that regard from BFA. WQs are still around, you have 4 covenant stories to go through now as well.
Both the Maw and Torghast are also there as single player content.
PvP was also heavily revitalized. Random BGs are thriving again and gearing from that is both easy and pretty casual friendly.
I only play about 1 hour a day or so and I have 3 level 60s 
One of my 60s has their tier 3 legendary.
Im casual.
Heroic gear…Check
Torghast quest of the week done.
Renown up to date…check.
One quest to do today…finished at 8:30 log off until tomorrow.
Yeah this wont keep me around much longer.
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All you people telling everyone to quit if they only have 1 hour a day to play remember this when the game keeps shrinking and you wonder why blizzard doesn’t invest more into the game.
This is why. If the game can’t grow beyond people who can devote serious time to it then blizzard is going to keep pumping out low cost, low effort systems because that’s all that the audience can support.
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