Hunter is really, really fun in Battlegrounds right now.
Youāre old like meā¦ what used to be an open world exploration feels more like a theme park that shushes you along specific paths. Before you could fall off to your death on a cliff and now thereās safety rails there to keep you from jumping off a lot of times.
Now a days however since Activision has asserted itself over Blizzard the development isnāt the same as it used to be. Shadowlands like all the others before it up to WoD are really the same expansion reskinned over and over again. Itās why people burn out so quickly. Oh well.
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I doubt folks are paying a sub fee to play one hour a day. Thatās a huge waste of money
I am going to reply with another players post because it sums up how a lot of us feel:
Thats the real problem, nothing makes me want to keep myself logged in. i do my daily āchoresā and thats it. It doesnt seem worth it to pay for this every month from my perspective.
Its really not that simple.
Every product has a saturation rate. Every product needs a solid core of users to be worthwhile. Diluting what attracted these costumers in an attempt to branch out rarely works, if ever. And in the rare cases it does its only a temporary win.
That was a big trend during pretty much the entirety of 2010ās in marketing and if you notice, everyone is pretty much changing course now with so many big corps announcing how theyāre going back to basics and going to focus more on their ācore audienceā etc.
A product that pleases everyone doesnāt exists.
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Well said.
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While some play 7 hours a dayā¦ playing 7 hours a week should be more than ample time to progress and enjoy playing the game. Of course not be able to progress as much as the āno lifersā but certainly enough to feel satisfaction and power increase.
That is truly the only real reason people play whether they admit it or not. If you cannot feel the progressionā¦ then the game must be funā¦ really fun.
WoW doesnāt offer much level of fun aloneā¦ itās the progress that is fun.
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Everyone is doing the chore list though, thatās kinda when thatās done that you can actually have fun with the game. Try M+ (doesnāt need to be +20s, just a +3-4 is already a much different experience), try Normal Raiding, try casual battlegrounds or even arena.
Thatās what i mean when i say you canāt please everyone. People have been asking for less chores for the entirety of BFA so they could have more time to have fun with the core of the game.
So how do you balance that out?
One other little thing I think contributes to the problem with WoW today is throw away expansions. You have a design going in since WoD where you build up something and then throw it completely away next expansion.
Before that you started out with a talent tree and used that to build out your character. Each expansion added to that tree and gave you a better sense of progression over all. That isnāt happening with the disposable legendaries and/or FOTEXP abilities. You are less satisfied with your overall growth as a character in the game cause growth gets tossed for the new shiny to raise money for the share holders in a more obvious way.
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If youāre irresponsible and are having kids without the necessary income, sure.
I pay a in-home Nanny to entertain my kids on evenings Monday through Friday. If I wasnāt financial stable enough to afford that I probably wouldnāt be able to play games at all. Having 3 kids is no joke.
Donāt even need a nanny. I donāt have kids but plenty of my guild mates do, including the leadership.
Just a bit of planning with the significant other can go a long way.
My only problems right now are with the low loot drop rates and having fewer and fewer options for upgrades, and the story doesnāt seem important or engaging at this point.
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That would be fine if one population wasnāt significantly smaller than the other. A tiny fraction of players are more than casual.
This game cannot be sustained at a reasonable quality on hardcore players alone contrary to the views of a lot of forum dwellers.
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Iām super casual, only have a few hours to play every week yet Iām caught up with my covenant, Torghast & been starting to do M+(hate it cause itās boring) at a slow rate & even got in to a few normal raids, but my issue is I apply during the night then have to leave after a bit because the doggo will pester me for attention.
I can see why this expansion could be bad for casuals, the drop rate for items in raids is just soā¦stupid. But even with being casual and where Iām at right now Iām having fun. Though the thing I donāt want to do Iām going to have to do & thatās join a guild.
Casual is so vague though. Lets take one of my guild mates for example. Basically only logs in to do his dailies and raids due to his family/work life, doesnāt have alts, doesnāt pvp or farm (buys tokens for consumables, he can afford it). Heās raiding Mythic with us on a 2 days/week 3 hours per raid night schedule. He plays basically 8 to 10 hours a week. Heās having a blast with Shadowlands (Castle Nathria is really fun and having only to do a couple chores per week is a huge boon for players who mostly care about raiding).
Is he hardcore or casual in your book?
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The luckiest kids on the planet. Dads home but would rather play than spend time with his kids. Very sad.
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If he always has played 8-10 hours a week including at launch? 8-10 hours a week devoted to any hobby is a pretty serious time commitment but heās probably pretty close to being a casual.
If heās consistently been someone who plays that much since launch and can do mythic raids then heās an outlier. He plays with people who carry him in content his time commitment wouldnāt normally allow until heās geared enough to be able to play less hours in a mythic raid.
See, some people who have to take care of children cant commit to M+, raiding, or PvP because they may be pulled away and have to drop group. Thats why i mostly played solo the last 6 1/2 years. For a player like me its easy to fall behind and always play catch up, i expect to be behind the entire expansion if i keep playing it.
When you have kids there is no āme timeā, parents who have āme timeā cant handle their children and need a break or they will break. i work 50-60 hours a week, i pick up one of the kids, make dinner, read a book with the older one, then its bed time. Me time is when im at work and the time in between putting them to bed and falling asleep. Thats literally minutes, and i only sleep for 4 to 6 hours a night because of the aforementioned due to me having to wake up a 4am.
Parents are allowed to have some āmeā time too.
And trust me, thereās much worst scenarios.
But this is why people need to be careful with oversharing here or on social media, people will focus on the slightest details and use it to paint a full picture without having any context.
I play with them on weekends.
Sorry, try harder next time.
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