There’s nothing wrong with GDKPs themselves, and you can’t prove which ones being advertised are legitimate and which ones are being fueled by bought gold
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When people are spending hundreds or thousands of gold at level 25, it’s pretty obvious they bought gold.
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That’s not what I said. I said you can’t prove which ones being advertised are or aren’t. And OP is suggesting mass reporting GDKP advertisements
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There is when the gold came from your credit card
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a GDKP charge an entrance fee lol.
People can’t choose to post world drop epics and blues on the AH. They have to drop first. From your point of view, the entire game is gambling at this point. Every mob you kill is a gambling to get something valuable.
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GDKP fuels the majority of gold buying in WoW. Odds are one or more people in a GDKP are RMTers. Report them and let Blizzard sort it out.
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And you’re the reason it takes literal weeks for tickets to be resolved by flooding the system with tickets that just get thrown out due to a lack of evidence
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Just because an epic BOE drops doesn’t mean someone will post it on the AH. They might use it, disenchant it, vendor it, or even delete it. Every AH posting is a deliberate act. There is nothing random about it.
It’s not gambling. It’s a “predetermined agreement” between all players that any and all items (regardless of WHAT drops) will be set to a bid with gold. I suppose you think guilds that use a dkp system are gambling too right? Especially guilds that award bonus dkp for… you know… giving potions and consumables to the guild bank?
Isn’t that buying guild dkp with in game items, to “bid” on raid gear? So they could just buy gold (against TOS), then walk over to the auction house and buy stacks of consumables and trade goods, donate it to their guild for their weekly 5 dkp bonus cap and then “gamble” that dkp in their next guild raid?
Or at least… that’s what you are suggesting.
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depends on how much gold…
1000/2000 gold per item… where all this golds comes from?
Gambling involves currency. Gold is the currency of WoW. Guild DKP is not recognized outside of the guild as legitimate currency.
I report players that advertise GDKP’s and let Blizz decide if its appropriate.
Oh… ok. Then the GDKPS just need to switch to DKP. And people can earn DKP with donations, just like a guild sometimes offers in their DKP structure.
Problem solved.
you dont want a normal endgame experience. a normal endgame experience for you is most likely getting kicked from raid and laughed at cause your gear/spec/rotation is terrible. reason being is only terrible players cry about what others do in raids. good players would be decked out and carrying said gdkps as thier hustle for making gold.
So (figuratively) carpet bomb everyone to make sure you hit the few gold buyers? To heck with the Innocents as long as we get even a single gold buyer?
Sounds legit.
I genuinely like GDKP runs. It’s a nice way to not only get loot but in the event you don’t get any loot you can walk away with a nice cut of gold so regardless you walk away feeling like a winner.
The only issues I have with it are it’s hard to get into unless you either already have a good stockpile of gold or are already well geared.
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Why do you guys love making up statistics. Wheres your proof of this?
The rampant number of bots required to farm the ever-increasing amounts of gold trading hands in GDKPs.
GDKP’s are starting bids at 5g, items go for 50g or less, rarely over 100g.
Meanwhile AH is full of BoE’s going for couple hundreds. There’s also barely any GDKP compared to SR runs. Stop making stuff up. Your entire fantasy about how GDKP is gambling was amusing to read, but I believe you better seek help.
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The point is, GDKP isn’t the main problem. It’s the bots and Blizzards inability (or lack of desire) to do anything about them.
People can just change GDKP to Donation DKP. Everyone has to show up with tradable items off the auction house and bid with those items.
For example, everyone shows up with Traveler Backpacks. Say they go for 100g a piece on the AH. Well people could just bid with Traveler Backpacks instead of gold and then split the bags at the end. Then, sell the bags on the AH for gold.
Does that make the auction house bad? The people in the raid didn’t buy the bags from bots. They came off the auction house that you defended in your previous post as “not gambling”.
If Blizzard confirmed that they shut down every single bot and gold seller / buyer in the game, no one would be saying anything about GDKP. People would just be bidding 10 gold instead of 100 gold.
Exactly what Zugsmash said. The bots don’t just effect GDKPs. It effects the auction house too. You think all those SFK blues are worth 800+ gold? If the bots were completely shut down, the blues on the AH would drop from 800 gold to 80 gold. Herbs, ore and fish would go up in price as well.
This “topic” has been on reddit and in the WoW forums for nearly 10 years. The people that are posting complaints about it now are FAR behind the times. The rest of us play the game knowing that this problem has existed for over a decade and have accepted that Blizzard can’t or won’t do anything about it. We have already moved on and either choose to play the game or don’t. Once these “new complainers” are properly educated and accept it, they will too.
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