Can we start mass reporting GDKP advertising

[Baddtank-lone-wolf]

wow you mean it was exactly like LFM GRUUL 1 SR, DST HR for two years prior? Or LFM MOLTEN CORE BINDING REZ, 2 SR for all of vanilla? hmmmmmm.

[Gbpusd-lone-wolf]

No thanks, im not coming to your HR runs.

[Twîggi-area-52]

@Waterbots-crusader-strike

Unfortunately botted gold is always part of a GDKP pot, which YOU then acquire(along with 9 other players)

Cope. Just get better at making gold

[Volitar-burning-blade (Volitar)]

You played on the sewerpipe server now and you complain you are surrounded by filth.

[Teàrs-arcanite-reaper]

Nope you guys keep the GDKP RMTrs streamer culture and bots. us on classic era finally can play the game we love without all the tourists.

[Throwinhands-whitemane]

@Waterbots-crusader-strike

I see more and more GDKPs forming every lockout. Ive been reporting them and i think if other players do the same we can fight this atrocious gold buying era-style endgame and have a normal endgame for once.

What is your issue with buying gold when blizzard themselves SELL gold in their game?

[Shadows-grobbulus]

GDKP is gambling. Advertising gambling is against TOS. Report away.

[Aamon-arugal]

If anyone deserves a ban, it’s you for intentionally abusing the report system.
There’s nothing wrong with gdkps, its a legit way of making gold.

[Aamon-arugal]

@Shadows-grobbulus

GDKP is gambling.

You think auctions are gambling? Better ban everyone you see at the AH then.
The regular loot system is closer to gambling than gdkps…

[Xtrasecksi-benediction]

agree with banning the people who false report.

[Shadows-grobbulus]

The regular loot system doesn’t involve bidding on random drops. That’s the difference between GDKP and the AH.

[Meganpallion-whitemane]

This is the most well rounded reasoning I have read so far for supporting the garbage that is gdkp. Thanks for sharing it. You are right that gdkp legitimately gives geared characters a reason to continue running the content. It is a strong and simple justification that actually makes sense, to me at least.

That is not to say that it dismantles the argument about how GDKp is fueled by illicit transactions that break the economy, which that is a separate problem. And I think that everyone here knows that gold sellers is a 20 year old problem in this game which could have been solved over the past 20 years through dedicated staffing and proactive measures to remove bots.

[Snipy-faerlina]

@Waterbots-crusader-strike

we can fight this atrocious gold buying era-style endgame and have a normal endgame for once.

Whether I agree with your stance towards GDKP or not, the title of this post is whether we can mass report GDKP advertising.

GDKP in and of itself is not against any rules nor does it incite breaking any rules, and as such is not a violation or reportable act. What may be reportable though is advertising guild recruitment or raid recruitment in the /LookingForGroup channel which is apparently explicitly for group activities happening now.

This post has some replies with various links to blue posts, and documentation that gives some information/insight into how that may work, and why reporting posts to /LookingForGroup that are advertising GDKP runs at a later date/time may be appropriate (though, it may be noteworthy that this appears to have no correlation with the type of loot distribution system used for the run):

@Axxo-skyfury

I’ve been posting a recruitment message for a GDKP-focused guild/raiding team in /LookingForGroup chat and have received a Behavior Warning. Apparently several people have reported me for posting this.

I’m curious as to whether /LookingForGroup is the appropriate channel for this sort of posting, whether there is a more appropriate place, and/or whether actions may (or will) be taken on my account.

@Axxo-skyfury

I have since received a temporary chat and mail suspension.

[Taletal-thrall]

Bidding isn’t gambling.

[Draug-shattered-hand (Draug)]

Mass report advertisement for a GDKP because it is a GDKP? No, there is nothing in the rules that prohibit a GDKP.

Report advertisement SPAM? Yes you can do that if they are spamming the message (doubtful)

you can report individual players you suspect of having broken the ToS for cheating if you Know they bought gold (and them doing a GDKP isn’t a sign that they bought gold, I used to do GDKP to earn gold carrying other people when I was geared out.)

yes buying gold is a problem, and that gold being laundered though GDKPs is also a problem, HOWEVER isn’t equally problematic for people to spend that gold on Overpriced BoE’s on the AH that are technically their BiS because they come from RFK or are a one faction only like Humbert’s helm? Or other auctions that require large sums of gold like power leveling a profession (not a big concern at the moment but will be as SoD goes into further phases)

what am I saying? I am saying that your ire should be focused on gold buyers, gold sellers and bots, mass reporting those guys who are all breaking the ToS. Leave the concept of GDKP alone and let the people running it deal with figuring out if dirty money was involved and if they are okay morally with receiving that gold.

[Stompystomp-whitemane]

@Waterbots-crusader-strike

Ive been reporting them and i think if other players do the same

LOL YALL ARE GONNA GET A BAN FOR FALSEY REPORTING, KEEP DOIN IT!!!

[Stompystomp-whitemane]

@Draug-shattered-hand

gold being laundered though GDKPs is also a problem

Thats not a problem, because you cant launder money through GDKP’s. you can only launder money through a GBank(tbc/Wotlk).

[Phobonomicon-living-flame]

No it’s not what are you on?

[Maxiumx-sargeras]

@Shadows-grobbulus

GDKP is gambling. Advertising gambling is against TOS. Report away.

You think that bidding is gambling? So you think E-Bay is gambling as well?

If you do, then you apparently think that Blizzard has chosen to just ignore their own TOS for the last 10+ years regarding GDKP raids. Come on man… think before you type.

[Shadows-grobbulus]

Gambling (also known as betting or gaming ) is the wagering of something of value (“the stakes”) on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value, where instances of strategy are discounted.

There is nothing random about the auction house. People chose what they post on the AH, and people chose whether or not they want to bid on those items. Raid drops are random, and people in GDKPs are paying entrance fees to join.