I forgive you.
The establishment of Kingdom of Granada after the taking of Córdoba but before the 1608 Expulsion of the Mudéjar and Morsicos
Only took me 6 minutes of thinking about history.
Actually estimations of death range in the thousands, only the resurging Fascist political parties of Germany state otherwise
There’s plenty of examples of such things happening in history, most of it never gets talked about and most you won’t find in your average history book.
I didn’t know that a canadian historian is now a member of a fascist party?
Citation needed! My statement stands, academic consensus is of the thousands. Not hundreds of thousands.
Also, not telling you that your viewpoints are wong. Just that Baalsamael is, for thinking the Alliance is as guilty as the orcs for their actions during the first and second war.
So you’re telling me that the agressors were routed and defeated soundly, and then were given parts of their land by the ones they attacked and tried to genocide and conquer? With full autonomy? If that is true, there is something you are hiding, because I highly doubt they would do it out of the goodness of their hearts.
Given land and local autonomy yes. And even before the War of Granada, the last Andalusi Emirate was an autonomous part of the Spanish Monarchy, a vassal state of sorts if will.
The sociopolitical history of humanity is long and varied and if you can think of a concept it likely exists already in history.
There have thus been many men far better than you.
And that had nothing to do with the fact that the ones you speak of, had the backing of a superpower at the time, that is to say if they didn’t give them what they wanted, there would be hell to pay?
You do understand that genocide or interment camps, just a fancy word for concentration camp are both equally horrible choices right? It doesn’t make the alliance morally right.
Nope. Everyone in the Islamic world had given up on the idea of Al-Andalus for the most part. With the fall of the Andalusi Caliphate of Córdoba, other regions moved to claim the “seat”.
That had another reason, and it was not so selfless. The war was costly and expensive, and it threatened serious consequences such as harvest losses, the settlement of the defeated also stabilized the emerging famine, and ultimately ensured a longer peace, because this conflict did not stand for itself, but of a series of conflicts.
My statement stands.
They don’t.
They really think morals of war crimes are a hierarchy
Genocide is worse than Nukes is worse than Camps is worse than Slavery.
I blame US and European public education whitewashing (lol) their own history.
I’d love to know how you would have judged towards a people (And yes, people, after all, all known orcs had been savage bloodthirsty murderers and warriors they met).
Yes, your statement stands, but it doesn’t change the fact that the context for this leniency and mercy were justified, also in the necessity of the victors.
Thank you xx
It makes them a bit better, but more than anything it’s about grieviences. Also, if the Alliance wanted the orcs dead, then they would have died. Not through camps, but through mass executions.
And the main issue is the fact that when the orcs were defeated, they were still high on demon blood. They would have continued to kill, and burn, everyone and everything. The fact is, you seem to think the morally right choice would be to let them continue doing that. Because it was either that, camps, or genocide. That’s the position the old Alliance was put in, so I don’t think are as guilty for choosing option 2 as the orcs were for their actions. That is all.
And you haven’t told me why, which is the key part of this. And if you are unwilling to, i’ll just assume you’re hiding it for a reason.
So here’s the truth. Turns out you are a lying worm, Baalsamael.
I’m of Irish descent, and the Britains tried to genocide the Irish through the potatoe famine, stripping them of their culture,language and other such horrible acts. So anyone who tries to justify it, seriously makes me question them as person, just so everyone is clear on where I’m coming from on this
he didn´t lie, no, he said the truth about what happened after the war, but the reason of this was not because people back then were more selfless than we are.