Can we put Teldrassil comments to rest?

Being serious, it’s easy but insufficient. Only lore nerds actually read books. Most people don’t buy them, and even if you do, it doesn’t hold a candle to the overwhelming power of visual media. Blizzard’s issue with telling and not showing ought not be encouraged here - and we shouldn’t pretend that fixes that exist outside the game will fix the issue.

That aside, we need to get this thread back on track. As was pointed out - this is a tax thread now.

Unpopular opinion, but taxes on C-Corporations should be abolished - provided that the preferential rate on dividends is also abolished, and the gain on the sale of stock is taxed at a rate derived from a CPI-driven formula to more-precisely account for the effects of inflation. S-Corporations and Partnerships already do not have taxes, they are instead considered “pass-through” entities where the results of the business are divided according to the partners’ relative profits and losses percentages as shown on their K-1. The business entity itself does not pay taxes, the individual partners do.

With a C-Corporation, due to the expectation that stocks are easily transferable, it’s nearly impossible to do this, hence the incremental tax code and the entity-level tax - but consider the outflows of the corporation.

  • When the corporation buys something from someone, the seller pays tax.
  • When the corporation pays its workers or executives, the employees pay tax.
  • When the corporation distributes dividends, those are taxed (albeit at a preferential rate that I think should be eliminated)
  • When the corporation increases in value and then has its stock sold, that increase is taxed. (Albeit, in a somewhat blunt manner that tries to account for inflation, but isn’t anywhere near granular enough to represent a fair rate).

Corporations would probably still need to file informational returns, but we could trim a lot of the tax code away, and through the “normalization” of dividends, trim away some complexity. The CPI-indexing reintroduces some complexity, but realistically, we should be doing CPI-indexing for Long Term Capital Gains period. Moving from Ordinary rates under a less-than-one-year holding period to 15-20% just because we’re now in more than a year is a poor way to account for inflation.

After Horde apologists flaunted their morality stick over “muh Taurajo !” and the purge of Dalaran incessantly for the past eight years? I don’t think so.

We will never stop bringing up the burning of trapped innocents who were unable to defend themselves.

Innocents who were burned faster by horde soldiers and shamans who have now conveniently folded back into the main body of the horde.

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So much for being serious…

The tax collectors would like to have a word with you mister :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

As far as Blizzard is concerned, it’s been “dealt with” as Tyrande has had her revenge.

Why, because she “killed” the toady of the person responsible?

Shortly before an expansion that literally has death and the afterlife as its primary theme?

What “revenge” has Tyrande gotten, exactly?

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Just because Blizzard says it does not mean the audience believes it. It’s kind of like when you take out a 30-year lease with escalating rents and the IRS concludes that even though the agreement was structured as a lease, it has the characteristics of a loan and therefore should have imputed interest. You can say it’s totally a lease, but the IRS will laugh in your face and demand what, if I remember right, is a Section 467 calculation and treatment. Why? Because even though you’re calling it a lease, it looks like you just financed a building and tried to cleverly tiptoe around the accounting implications of that fact - and in this case have failed.

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I constantly have to remind people to never trust blizzard or take them at their word. They are known to use Lawyer talk, meaning they will say one thing, mean something else entirely and than attempt to BS their way out of it when called out on it. Why anyone still takes them at their word is beyond me.

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As creators of the franchise, they are literally as the trope says, the Word of God.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WordOfGod

We know Captain Obvious

I’m sorry i just don’t see Blizzard ever writing this. It’s a pipe dream.

The Horde could just as well say that to truly make amends for the Alliance keeping orcs in confinement camps, crimes against the Trolls and the Forsaken they officially give Kalimdor over to the Horde.

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we talk since 10 years about taurajo, what do you think?

In other words, no, I don’t think this discussion is leaving, soon.

All of it, or just parts?

In any case, It wouldn’t take too much effort for Blizzard to actually do most of it. Whether they are willing or not is an entirely different question.

All of it.

it would be an insult to the Horde.

as soon as you start comparing apples to apples both factions have committed against each other then you realize that there can’t be reparations when both factions are equally victimized.

You started the Endloss discussion again, you know that, right?

And bfa was a massive insult to the Alliance, one that must be remedied. The Horde should not get to walk away from commiting genocide, without atleast trying to atone.

The very notion of letting Sylvanas have any kind of happy ending after what she has done fills me with enough rage to split mountains, so I truly hope that blizzard are sensible, and give her what she deserves.

You are completely detached from reality if you believe that. The Horde has overwhelmingly done more to the Alliance than the reverse. Sorry, but you are either lying or completely misinformed if you believe this.

But we don´t start this discussion now, pls, guys, pls. This discussion will not end well, it can´t end well, no side will be satisfied, if we start it now.

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And you’re being disingenuous if you believe the alliance never committed crimes against the horde. I’ll give you a hint, one sides crimes get justified while the other gets told they’re monsters and always been evil.

I’ll leave it to you to figure it out.

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I see yet another “stahp with Teldrassil” post turned into a faction argument. Business as usual.

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Yes, it’s quite…taxing.

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