I am actually aghast by how many people seem to have a need for their character to be good looking to enjoy a game.
It certainly depicts really well how our current society works nowadays.
Me too. I don't get it.
I would be very disappointed if they wasted time putting this in Classic.
Why? transmogg is awful imo i want to see what other people are actually wearing and not just dress up.
Personally i like to see my characters armor change as i level up :)
Why hasn't this thread been locked?
We need to lobby for a dye system that is exclusive to Classic and added at a later date.
Make the recipes and dyes BoP to discourage gold farming. More complex recipes and dyes require higher level content. You could even make it a gold sink, if necessary.
"It wasn't in vanilla so it shouldn't be in classic" is a perfectly valid reason, even if you do not agree with that reason.
It is not based on nostalgia, emotion and opinion anymore than "this change should be in classic because I like it". It is based on a desire to see a truer classic experience that is not watered down and bastardized with all sorts of non vanilla QOL convenience changes.
You don't have to like it or agree with it, but the fact that it was not part of vanilla is not only a valid, rational, legitimate reason not to add any specific non vanilla QOL convenience change, but it is also an undeniable, inescapable and irrefutable fact.
I am actually aghast by how many people seem to have a need for their character to be good looking to enjoy a game.
It certainly depicts really well how our current society works nowadays.
I'm actually aghast that so many called this a real RPG and then make an RPG element out to somehow be a bad thing.
I won't lose sleep over it either way. Just grinds my gears a bit hearing in multiple threads over the past few months that "this is a real RPG." Or the "its balanced like a real RPG" then an RPG element like transmog is somehow demonized with weak arguments against it.
So it's an RPG when we are talking about class balance. It's an RPG when compared to legion. It's an RPG when discussing hybrids.
It's just not an RPG when discussing tmog or the way your character looks. Got it.
That's the only reason I even put any thought into this. Then again I have an ability to look at both sides of things.
Once naxx has been released and the streamers move onto their next money maker and they lead their sheep out of here. More will be open to changes.
We need to lobby for a dye system that is exclusive to Classic and added at a later date.
Make the recipes and dyes BoP to discourage gold farming. More complex recipes and dyes require higher level content. You could even make it a gold sink, if necessary.
they have said many times that dyes cant be done in wow due to how armor models work. they would have to make significant changes for that to be possible
People need to work hard towards 'Cool Armor' - When you see a Tier 3 Warrior you ought to day dream about becoming like that.
Now a days everyone looks elite in elite armor pieces and thus it diminishes the effort made by real players who genuinely look elite.
I love Transmogs too but NOT for Classic
People need to work hard towards 'Cool Armor' - When you see a Tier 3 Warrior you ought to day dream about becoming like that.
Now a days everyone looks elite in elite armor pieces and thus it diminishes the effort made by real players who genuinely look elite.
I love Transmogs too but NOT for Classic
You do realize that you can only mog down, right?
We need to lobby for a dye system that is exclusive to Classic and added at a later date.
Make the recipes and dyes BoP to discourage gold farming. More complex recipes and dyes require higher level content. You could even make it a gold sink, if necessary.
they have said many times that dyes cant be done in wow due to how armor models work. they would have to make significant changes for that to be possible
Wasnât aware of that. It would require the components of each item to be classified as primary, secondary, and tertiary colors then assign colors from the item to those classifications.
Kind of hard to retrofit, but doable for L60 Dungeon, Tier and PvP gear. I wouldnt waste time on sub L60 gear.
Let noobs look like noobs!
04/23/2018 09:15 AMPosted by
Teza
It's just not an RPG when discussing tmog or the way your character looks. Got it.
I understand that how your character looks is part of your role play fantasy. I support your need. Vanilla wow has a mechanism by which you can control your character's appearance. Equip the gear. Simple. No new magic required. Wear the gear you want to be seen in. Managing your character's appearance comes with further rp elements - your character's stats are built by the gear you have equipped. Carry a 'city set' in your bags.
I am actually aghast by how many people seem to have a need for their character to be good looking to enjoy a game.
It certainly depicts really well how our current society works nowadays.
Who said anything about good looking? A character might want to role play in ugly rags.
What surprises me, is how many people donât role play in a damn RPG. Most of you think itâs some action game.
Well guess what, wearing certain items can go a long way to bring your character and their story alive.
Maybe COD is more your thing?
I can't remember if this set was part of vanilla, but if it was, I will have an orc rogue that will be carrying around the bandit set for in town. It just looks cool.
People need to work hard towards 'Cool Armor' - When you see a Tier 3 Warrior you ought to day dream about becoming like that.
Now a days everyone looks elite in elite armor pieces and thus it diminishes the effort made by real players who genuinely look elite.
I love Transmogs too but NOT for Classic
Vanilla would obviously be different, unless youâre a troglodyte and canât think.
As long as itâs not account wide, it would be great.
Itâs not like you can go farm even MC for your tier 1, heâll you wonât even be able to go farm the 5 mans solo at 60!
So no, you wonât be seeing everyone in elite tiers.
I am actually aghast by how many people seem to have a need for their character to be good looking to enjoy a game.
It certainly depicts really well how our current society works nowadays.
Who said anything about good looking? A character might want to role play in ugly rags.
What surprises me, is how many people donât role play in a damn RPG. Most of you think itâs some action game.
Well guess what, wearing certain items can go a long way to bring your character and their story alive.
Maybe COD is more your thing?
What better tells the story of your character by seing instantly your unmatching set of armor where you recognize the shoulders from Naxx, the weapon from AQ40 and the Helm from BWL?
Tmog does not have its place in Vanilla. It would screw the economy, disrupt directly the gameplay (how to assess your opponent strength).
Plus the items available are too limited, in the end, instead of having all the mages looking alike with their tier, you will have all the mages, warlocks and priests looking similar.
You want to role play? You did as we used to, you keep the role play sets in your bag and take it out in between breaks in raids, in capitals, or whenever you want. I said it before and I'll say it again; We adapt to Vanilla, not the other way round
We need to lobby for a dye system that is exclusive to Classic and added at a later date.
Make the recipes and dyes BoP to discourage gold farming. More complex recipes and dyes require higher level content. You could even make it a gold sink, if necessary.
they have said many times that dyes cant be done in wow due to how armor models work. they would have to make significant changes for that to be possible
They also said the backpack could not be increased in size without breaking the game. Guess those extra 4 slots didn't break the game.
They also said there wasnt enough of a market to do classic. Guesss what is happening?
I'm no programmer but in that line of code there is a line that tells what color should be used for an item. You're telling me an item can't be made that modifies that to a different color?
Somehow I don't believe this. Especially when a game from 1996 did this....
Oh not too mention how many reskins are there is this game? Look at your tmog tabs. How many items share the same appearance but are different colors? Can't be done....uh huh.
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Who said anything about good looking? A character might want to role play in ugly rags.
What surprises me, is how many people donât role play in a damn RPG. Most of you think itâs some action game.
Well guess what, wearing certain items can go a long way to bring your character and their story alive.
Maybe COD is more your thing?
What better tells the story of your character by seing instantly your unmatching set of armor where you recognize the shoulders from Naxx, the weapon from AQ40 and the Helm from BWL?
Tmog does not have its place in Vanilla. It would screw the economy, disrupt directly the gameplay (how to assess your opponent strength).
Plus the items available are too limited, in the end, instead of having all the mages looking alike with their tier, you will have all the mages, warlocks and priests looking similar.
You want to role play? You did as we used to, you keep the role play sets in your bag and take it out in between breaks in raids, in capitals, or whenever you want. I said it before and I'll say it again; We adapt to Vanilla, not the other way round
A friendly hello and a question about where you got X item usually gets people to tell you some of their story.
You keep stalking from a distance though. I'll engage in conversation and see where it leads.
It would only screw the economy if it was implemented the same as retail. Only reason retail did it the way they did was to make a use of old content.
The power assessment is cowardice. Period. Maybe you can tell me why this wasn't brought up in cata when tmog was intrduced?
If its such a game changer why didnt anyone point this out back then?
If you're so sure it wasn't meant for vanilla why did they have the dressing room feature to preview gear?
Another thing if looks don't matter why have so many different looks in the game?
Could have made one set look for every class that made them look like their class instead of looking like clowns that fell in a dumpster of lucky charms.
RPG means play that character like it was you. I'm not the best dresser in the world but I've never left my house looking like a clown. Not even on Halloween when I was a kid.
As a warrior you want to instill fear into your enemies not laughter....
I'm 50/50 on it. On the one hand, it'll substantially change the aesthetic of the game, but on the other hand, it means getting to use a pointy wizard hat at level 60 without compromising gear. And because there's no flashy gear before you start getting into raid stuff, it's not like everyone is going to look like some crazy badass - most people's selections will be more modest.
Of course, there's the concern about people rolling need for mogs. That would be deeply troubling. I'm not sure how you could possibly prevent that with a transmog system, without jumping off the deep end with something like personal loot (which I'm 100% against).
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What better tells the story of your character by seing instantly your unmatching set of armor where you recognize the shoulders from Naxx, the weapon from AQ40 and the Helm from BWL?
Tmog does not have its place in Vanilla. It would screw the economy, disrupt directly the gameplay (how to assess your opponent strength).
Plus the items available are too limited, in the end, instead of having all the mages looking alike with their tier, you will have all the mages, warlocks and priests looking similar.
You want to role play? You did as we used to, you keep the role play sets in your bag and take it out in between breaks in raids, in capitals, or whenever you want. I said it before and I'll say it again; We adapt to Vanilla, not the other way round
The power assessment is cowardice. Period. Maybe you can tell me why this wasn't brought up in cata when tmog was intrduced?
If its such a game changer why didnt anyone point this out back then?
There's actually an answer for this. You couldn't show enemy HP as an absolute value in vanilla, only a %. Meaning that if you saw an enemy player, your only ways of readily assessing how strong they were were level (which, from memory, would still be ?? if they were too high above you) and gear.
By the time Cata rolled around, HP scaled pretty predictably with ilvl and you could approximate how powerful they were by combining their class/spec and HP, so long as you had absolute values turned on.
[Edited to add that I do not support adding transmog to vanilla for several reasons, just continuing a related discussion about transmog in general]
04/21/2018 06:32 AMPosted by
Plum
I'd like to see these transmog sets people are going to use before hitting level cap.
I'd like to see these transmog sets people are going to use when they hit level cap.
Except for Starman who wants to mog a BIS helm to a lower tier bird head, I just don't get it. (Not that I get that, either.)
I think you would be surprised how many people don't just mog tier sets. A LOT of people mix and match gear from all levels.
My toons are usually mogged in thematically appropriate sets, often including many lower level quest or dungeon pieces. For instance when I quit in WoD I was using Furious Plate mixed with non-set pieces like Hellfrozen Bonegrinders and others I can't remember.
http://i.imgur.com/HCcwDyq.jpg
Maybe it's just an RP server thing?