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It literally is though.
Back in OG unholy was even considered the #1 tank for at least one boss in ICC and blood DPS had a few fights where they absolutely wrecked cause of HS cleave.
Just cause you’re bad doesn’t change this.
Also fix holy dps while i’m thinking of it
Umm… no it would just make DKs more OP.
2 top tier dps specs and a mid-to-good tank spec.
The only thing Blood needs is a better threat generation, especially on AOE pulls
Yeah don’t. Blood is already catching up and will be one of the strongest single target specs in icc. Unlike feral its not fundamentally broken… in fact its mid to low tier and the only reason people don’t play it is because the other two specs are S tier dps with good raid buffs.
That depends on the context. In some situations, it absolutely is. In others, not so much.
If you had to choose between a Commanding shout and a DSac on Algalon, you’d choose the Commanding Shout, because that helps you survive all of the bursts instead of one per 2 mins.
On XT hard mode? Probably DSac because of Tantrum being the only dangerous thing and DSac can heavily mitigate the bursts during it while being able to cover all of them with just 2 DSacs. DSac can’t do that with other most other mechanics without serious paladin stacking (to the point of other detriments to your raid).
They both are effective HP buffs that work in different ways, so there are times where each is better than the other.
Eh, the logic of “well, rets did, so X should” is just poor. The design goal is stated to be that each class can be viable at all roles that they can potentially spec into. At this point, there are no major outliers left there. Ret was the only class that was significantly behind all of the others in performance in DPS. It wasn’t behind all specs, but every spec it was above had an alternate DPS spec option noticeably above ret.
There’s maybe some arguments for buffs here outside of ret, but things are pretty ok on the DPS front now.
Tanks/healers? There is some argument for prot warrior given the fact that many groups avoid them, but they do see notable success in high end group comps. Healer balance isnt in a particularly bad place either.
“Well, you did it for rets!” Isn’t an argument. Ret had a notable problem (not having a DPS spec that wasn’t 10% under the next worst DPS spec that didn’t have a better option).
What we really need is to buff Spell Power Hunters.
And bring back Diamond Flask sets for warriors while we’re at it, give that healer gear to warriors where it belongs.
Press X to doubt.
We’ve had this argument before, but this is just not a real choice that has to be made in 25m raiding. It’s a silly reduction because it’s the only possible way to view warriors more favorably than paladins in terms of raid utility.
The only time you’d ever really have to make a choice like that is in 10m, and if I had to choose between a PALADIN and a WARRIOR on Algalon, it’s the paladin 9 times out of 10.
Yeah, you rarely are forced to, but it doesn’t change the fact that you will always want a warrior for commanding shout. It doesn’t matter what variety of warrior it is, but you’ll never ditch all of your warriors for 1 extra DSac.
And if you had to choose between 1 paladin (not an extra) and a warrior on Algalon 10 (for some reason you don’t have a holy/prot pally), I’d still go with the warrior and pick up the 8% kings consumable. (Unless it was a pally tank on Algalon, warrior would probably not beat that even with Comm shout)
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So are you going to be the top dps for like 9 seconds?
If they’d said blood would have amazing cleave I would have believed it though lol
More like, 18 seconds.
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not if you pass on shadowmourne
I mean at 100% arp blood is fat, but the other two specs are still better for most things since it’s aoe will never keep up and frost also becomes stupid good. There aren’t any bad DK specs and i don’t see how you could buff one without making them even more broken.
I love my DK and like playing blood but the idea DKs are adding for buffs is kind of laughable
Yup… blood dps is so fun to play.
If not for the meta sweats, it would be utilized more often.
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Another ret main who thinks commanding shout and dsac are on par 
If you don’t think thy are, you are just bad at the game 
in most fights Commanding shout does more to keep your raid alive than DSac because you can’t have DSac for all damage events and they are both literally doing the same thing to keep you alive (extra effective health).
Just because DSac is a cooldown doesn’t make it better.