I literally said this too. However, the reason he allied with the Legion is he went insane. Furthermore, Kael joining the Legion doesn’t invalidate anything I’ve said.
You’re not and don’t really back up your assertions except with more baseless assertions or ones with invalid bases. No actual facts. Keep telling yourself that though. Talk about distortions.
My generalizations are backed up by facts. I have listed some in this thread, though not directly at you, while others I just didn’t think I had to list given they are/were pretty numerous and blatant.
An example of an assertion with an invalid basis, in this case due to you misrepresenting/misquoting me and my arguments.
I never asserted that all blood elves have always acted a single certain way. Again, talk about distorting facts.
My argument has always been three-fold: Originally, nearly all Blood elves (MAYBE besides Farstriders which only started getting any portrayal in tbc, and don’t ever truly prove to not conform, just having a different focus narratively) acted a certain way. Something backed up by not only the WC encyclopedia, but also in game with numerous examples I didn’t think I had to list to show it wasn’t just an assumption given they were so prevalent that I’d have an easier time listing the few exceptions, such that you and others even tried to invalidate my supposed assumption by referencing how the end of TBC changed things. Which it did, just not as much as you argued. Which brings me to the second part of my argument. After TBC to present there’s instead mostly TWO ways blood elves behave. Those that still cling to the old ways not shared by High Elves (ways forced into being by them clinging to their Arcane heritage, and essentially an aspect of their culture) refrenced in the narration upon creating a new blood elf and depicted in BFA with green eyed blood elves seen feeding on troll blood magic through typical draining methods (there’s probably other examples, but I can’t think of them) and those who embrace the new Sunwell. Those who embrace the new Sunwell are closer to being little more than renamed High Elves.
“Mostly” being a word allowing me to acknowledge that a few individuals deviated from the typical depiction in important ways, that set them apart as special, not representative of the majority, or norm. In Valeera’s case, I actually acknowledge there are aspects to her depiction that fit with most other blood elves, especially pre-wotlk, but she is such a messily portrayed and written character (mana addiction triggered at a different time from other blood elves? Fel green eyes even before said addiction was triggered?) specifically written as especially individualistic, and independent from the rest of her people, that even if she does largely fit with the characterization of most blood elves during that period of the lore, the parts that don’t fit are so integral to the character that they make her an exception, and not an example representative of most canon blood elves.
This is an exact situation where a generalization makes sense because my very argument is that generally speaking something is true, based on things I thought were obvious. Begging the question would mean I don’t even believe or care for my argument to be supported by anything. Which is just an assumption you made… again, even though for some reason you argued against the argument prior to that suggesting you recognized its veracity.
This brings me to the last part of my argument, that not only aren’t belves not helves, they shouldn’t be. Or at least that’s not how they should mostly be portrayed. Warcraft’s elves should be thoroughly distinct from the elves of other franchises in their depictions. That’s fundamentally better for Warcraft because that gives Warcraft even more that people have to come to the franchise for specifically. Blood elves essentially just being high elves precludes that. High Elves should remain the largely unoriginal part of the PAST of Warcraft’s lore. Blood elves should be the thoroughly distinctive present and future.
I also haven’t called any blood elf depicted in game as “not a true blood elf”. Mostly because I haven’t had to. Show me an example of one I either have, or one you think I will. Besides your PC you RP lol, given that by nature of it just being your oc, your depiction is not officially canon. I also did not say Valeera is not a true Belf. Only that due to her being a rarely depicted, or even unique exception of an example, due to the degree of indviduality and alliegences, she does not weaken my argument as it is wor In addition, I already stated how appeal to purity is not applicable here. I can elaborate as to why, but frankly given you have already shown your true colors by stating you’d prefer if the Sin’dorei ceased to be a thing, and it was all just Quel’dorei… I am not sure there’s a point. Someone who wants the Sin’dorei to cease to be, doesn’t get to define what a blood elf is.
And how am I being dishonest?
Yes you said that when the example you gave of me being pedantic isn’t an example of being pedantic at all.
When you misquote someone, or misrepresent their argument, you are misrepresenting facts. Not being factual.
None of this is strawman. It all has important bearing on our differences. But by all means, stop responding. I don’t really trust the integrity underlying your arguments.
