Heh this is why I missed it. I only did Venthyr with my Belf and one of my Velfs. 
Thank you.
That is exactly a percentage. Thats math.
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A percentage would be Kaelâthas saying, â90% of my people.â He said nine of ten. Thatâs as much a percentage as it is a decimal, or a fraction. The phrasing specifically is not a percentage.
its a mathematical expression⌠9/10âs is the exact same thing as 90%.
Blizzard definitely since Chronicle used the 90% of the people of Quelâthalas concept.
That doesnât change that it was Quelâthalasâ pop and doesnât specifically say all high elves.
And the exact same thing as 0.9, or 9/10.
Grammatically, the information was not presented as a percentage.
But theyâre all literally the same thing.
Theres no way around that.
He is literally saying 90% of his kingdoms people were slain to raise the Lich. (Also I hate Kelâthuzad so much.)
Yes. My comment was that Kaelâthas did not relay the information as a percentage, but as a statistic. With simple math that statistic can be portrayed as a percentage, a fraction, a decimal, etc⌠But it wasnât given in that manner.
Then why are we arguing?
My point was that this contends my earlier point that Chronicle doesnât state the number and, unless overwritten by something that came after it, weâre supposed to take it as gospel.
And that proves that the 90% number for the losses in Quelâthalas still holds up.
Good question. The other post stated the percentage was reaffirmed. My point was that their source didnât reaffirm it as a percentage, just a statistic, and even that statistic still didnât account for elves outside of the kingdom.
If someone says an object is 100cm long, do you need to ask them if its a meter?
I really truely cant understand what point youre trying to make at all with this.
Whats even happening now?
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Then I think you and I are in general agreement.
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It was a nitpick if anything. I was expecting Kaelâthas to have said, â90%.â So I searched the wiki for 90, and came up with nothing, and it took a while to find the actual source.
Depends. If youâre in school and taking a test and a teacher wants an answer in meters, but you answer in centimeters, theyâd mark it wrong. Well, unless theyâre a reasonable teacher.
Phew that makes much more sense haha
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Which may not be applicable? That means they may be applicable. Hardly a strong argument. But if you want something shorter in time, how about our relationship with Germany and Japan which were not that great in the mid 1940s but a strong alliance had formed by the 1960?
On second thought⌠I may not be able to make a proper megathread. For reasons I will not get into, I will never be able to become trust rank 3, and thus will never be able to give the megathread the links and pictures it deserves like other megathreads.
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Many big threads like that have survived off the link setup. You donât always need it to look as pretty.
Wow thatâs utterly pedantic. You know exactly what was being inferred and are trying to twist it to be vague and ambiguous.
And in common parlance Kingdom doesnât just refer to a tract of land or castle but to its people.
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It is as strong an argument as yours, even moreso because my argument is that the very uncertainty you point out was already inherent to your argument and detracts from it. You simply overlooked it.
Comparing near-modern relations between countries with relations between the races in WoW is not valid. Even with Germanyâs racism during that era, to equate the interactions between humans, and the interactions between entirely different species and/or the living and undead is truly sillyâŚ
Even if I entertain the comparison, the reality is Japan and Germanyâs relations in 1940 were not too bad. In 1935 a bit less so but thatâs more comparable. So thatâs a span of 25 years to 1960. DF takes place 15 years after vanilla started, and relations between the Horde and Alliance, the Forsaken and the Worgen in particular were really bad. Not even a comparison between relations between ww1 Japan and Germany to 1960 Japan and Germany to the Horde and the Alliance comes close.
So, no. Not applicable. And again even if it were applicable what is realistic, is not necessarily good for story-telling. Real life is god damn mundane. Especially politics. The coming together of mortal enemies in WoW should not be. It should require a ton to make it happen, and should be a compelling story.
I see⌠hm.
How about a quest that turns Forsaken back into Humans of Lordaeron, while theyâre at it.
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Youâre not getting high elves.
Youâre not getting high elves.
Youâre not getting high elves.
Youâre not getting high elves.
Youâre not getting high elves.
Youâre not getting high elves.
LET IT GO.
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Fact is helfers will not be happy till they get an explicitly helf starting area with explicitly helf quests from explicitly helf questgivers and explicitly helf racials and an explicitly helf mount that explicitly acknowledges their helfness. Everything revolves around them.
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