No the Peoples Front of Darnassus - the DPF are splitters
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It doesnāt have to be war.
Well itās not your home. Youāll likely get a portal to where ever they put your base. Then you can fly around to get around.
And it is about the city. You want to take something from the Horde.
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No
The only good elf is a dead Elf
Faction war, sure, for the moment. Faction conflict, no, never outplayed.
And how often have the factions come together to make several lifetimes of rivalry just vanish like that? Please tell me.
You want bad story telling, look at the Horde quests for the nelf tree. Now thatās bad story telling.
And it would be even worse design and disrespect towards the Horde forcing them to bite the proverbial turd again, over and over.
And I never said to give the Alliance a tent. Just not a Horde city. Like I said, have a full functioning hub in the Sunwell zone, or actually upgrade the velf settlement, the city floating in the void. Why does it have to be the belf city?
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As long as we can not enter Stormwind there is no reason to let male human paladins and their high elf wives inside Silvermoon. You get a portal and flight point to Quelādanas that is much better then turning a Horde city neutral.
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In the last update we got questlines where night elves and undead became friends.
We just got a story with the undead and worgen becoming friends and genn stepping down as leader as he didnt like it but knew it was right to do.
And we are constantly working with each others faction leaders with no animosity. Like alliance running around helping baine.
Its just where the story is going right now.
Hey, im up for them deciding factions are a big deal and having each faction get unique zones and stories like they did in the past.
Another expansion like bfa where each side got whole continents would be awesome.
But if all story content is shared, all new quest zones are shared, players of both factions can freely play together etc, then keeping factions alive with a few minor restrictions is just pointless.
Take dragonflight for example.
Faction only played a factor in the questline to get to the dragon isles.
After that it never came up.
In tww weve seen no indication of faction specific content. Even the new race is neutral again.
Basically the factions are just zombies at the moment. They need to pick a lane and stick to it.
Either open it all up, or go all in with faction specificā¦ everything basically.
But it seems to me like they made their choice already.
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Going back and forth in diplomatic relations just makes sense. Nothing you have pointed out means faction conflict wonāt return.
Stop wearing Blood elven colors, traitor.
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So you accept you donāt know what the word is. As a certain character says in the princess bride āYou keep using that word, I do not think it is what you think it is.ā
You have, but it seems you have ignored what was actually being said in those posts. Even Iām not egotistical enough to think they said it will happen and actually saw they asked for it.
Merging the elves will not uproot the game. Now your clearly exaggerating
It wonāt require an overhaul either.
Gameplay we already are with the sole exemption being in random bgās and the outside world.
Which isnāt new to blizzard as they have done that several times in the past.
Also, to add salt in your wounds, lorāthemar had been accepting HEās back into silvermoon forgiving them anyways, thus what I am saying at least lorewise is not a large stretch.
correct, she is void elf in name only, not a true one.
She is self proclaimed, no one in the lore stated she was a void elf except her.
And even then she stated herself she was neither is or not both high elf or void elf.
Free race change is not a āforced to change raceā They can choose the new Thalassian elf, which would have both customizations of VEās and BEās
What logic is there to keep 2 of the same exact races in the game at this point? might as well merge them and make it neutral, specially since VEās had been dumped as a concept by blizzard themselves.
Not happening.
Unification.
The original silvermoon which may be sharded and accessed by a bronze dragon will still be horde locked. Much of the same vein as darnassus.
Yeah well, wishful thinking is what made VEās a subrace in their own race selection.
Moritz is not a high elfer. Donāt confuse him with Fenelon
I believe the settings will be to find a way to either retake, or purify the sunwell again, as itās current status leaves it vulnerable to turning completely void (it already started to)
There is more factions that our player character could work with to make pvp relevant other then horde vs. alliance. Like there could be a BG of steamweedle cartel vs pirates.
The original city will obviously stay horde via bronze dragonsā¦
Theyāve been playable since 2007.
Accept reality and move on.
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Wait, so because Lilly decided to be BFFs with that nelf chick and Graymaneās daughter the factions became frieds? Hear that Tiny Nigel? This undead guy killed your mommy and daddy, but now you are friends. Or how does that work
Also the players do no represent the factions, the player is an idependent agent that is affilated with one faction.
And by the way, you got that backwards, itās Baine running around to help the Alliance. Always. Even during the two wars fought in Warcraft, he helped the Alliance. Heās the Allianceās biggest fanboy. Why heās still Horde, I donāt know. What I can tell you as a Horde player. Iād like to see that guy, AT LEAST, banished for treason so he can be Alliance full time.
And no, itās not where the story is. The story is that there is no open conflict between the Alliance and the Horde right now. And if you actually paid some attention to the story, the times the factions come together are rather few and at least once they ended very badly. Wrath Gate, Broken Shore, remember?
So no, itās not all roses and sunshine between the Horde an the Alliance.
And how is it pointless to keep factions alive when you said that each faction getting their own zones would be awesome? You do understand that the moment you kill factions, thereās no walking that back, right? You donāt get to bring them back.
And Dragonflight is an exception, if you think about it. The Dragon Isles belong to the dragons. You are there as a guest and have to adhere to a truce demanded by the dragon Queen concerning acts of hostility against the opposing faction. The factions have no interest in gaining ground there because the place belongs to someone else. There are no Alliance or Horde camps. The best the factions were allowed were a mixed group of explorers. So you arenāt going there to plant your flag in the ground, unlike just about every other expansion before it.
So yeah, the fact that the factions arenāt as active as in the past does not mean they are getting removed. Because as you pointed out, you can have stories that donāt involve factions and you can have stories that involve them at war or at least competing with each other. You remove factions, you close that avenue and I have no idea why they would ever do that since the conflict between red and blue is part of this gameās identity.
And holy crap I wrote a lot.
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Our hair styles are much sexier then yours.
The factions do tend to be represented by their leaders yes.
No we help him finding his missing tauren tribe
Yeah there have been times in the past where it didnt work out.
Lots of times where it did.
Yeah but keeping factions on life support just for potential that they might eventually one day change their mind leads to a worse game.
Thatās exactly what it is. Are you high? You are forcing players to change their race.
But they are not the exact same races. The velfs are void infused, the belfs are not. Now what you say is true when it comes to Belfs and Helfs. But since Helfs arenāt playable, well, thereās no problem then. But good argument why they should never be made playable. Bravo.
Why not?
Reunification actually. And that still does not translate into taking the Belf city.
And? Who cares about the old city? We are getting a new one like people have been asking. I donāt know why you people think that deal comes with the Alliance attached to it.
Like I said, lots of wishful thinking here and to be honest itās really annoying the way you keep trying to cut away pieces from belfs just because Blizzard decided to give them to the Horde back in 2007.
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I just also wanted throw out that while we dont know what uniting the elves will actually mean, i do believe that whatever it is will be blizzards attempt to stop the community arguing about who has what once and for all.
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Yes. But not the faction members. Again, I remind you that members of the Horde and the Alliance have killed each otherās people for longer than they didnāt.
Well, go ahead. Line them up for me.
And what are your arguments to back up that statement?
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Came together at the end of tbc.
At the end of wrath.
At the end of cataclysm.
At the end of mists.
At the end of wod.
All throughout legion.
End of bfa.
All of shadowlands.
All of dragonflight.
Minor restrictions on what players can and cant do based on a faction choice that never goes anywhere is just annoying.
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As if Blizzard never speaks figuratively, in exaggeration or hyperbole, or just outright lies. Lmfao. A shakey alliance IS a form of unification. Whether you accept it or not, the definition still fits.
No, that was just idiot devs. No one wished for VEās otherwise. No one could. Because they were such a random addition.
The end of tbc was the coming together of shattrathi factions and blood knights, assisted by independent members of red and blue.
End of wrath had red and blue literally shooting at eachother mid-raid.
The end of cataclysm was questionable in terms of how much the factions themselves actually came together as opposed to individual members.
End of mists ended with a warning verging on a threat.
End of WoD lead to the beginning of Legion, which did NOT work out for us working together at all. Legion was not a good example of working together doing that well.
To some. Some who perhaps should just go elsewhere instead of expect a core aspect of the game that others like to be COMPLETELY torn down.
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At the end of Wrath? When exactly? Cause I recall that the factions engage each other in an air battle above Icecrown. So Iām not sure howās that considered coming together.
Cataclysm, yes.
End of Mists we are killing a Horde leader with half the Horde being on his side.
No, not in WoD. Thatās either Horde and Alliance taking on Gulādan via the efforts of the player and his garrison.
In Legion the Class Halls are the focus, thereās no Horde and Alliance, those failed at the Broken Shore event, the Class Order Halls are their own thing where members of every faction can join, provided they donāt represent the factions. So no, it wasnāt Horde and the Alliance coming together, it was the same classes coming together.
Not at the end of BFA, thatās again the same deal as mists, cause the writers are so creative. But hey at least this time they let the Horde have a loyalist quest line.
Shadowlands does not include the factions, itās about the covenants. Much like in Legion the Alliance and the Horde didnāt join the covenants, they players did.
Dragon Flight has nothing to do with factions coming together because there are no factions on the Dragon Isles.
So you got two examples where the Horde and the Alliance came together. Broken Shore and Death Wing. And one ended badly.
But they have removed most minor restrictions. You can group across factions. You can even guild across factions. What are you talking about?
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I can be a member of the silver covenant, just by wearing the silver covenant tabard and having the mount. 
High elf.
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