Can we finally get playable the high elves?

[Naughtymoon-proudmoore (Naughtymoon)]

@Moritz-proudmoore

The threads there close automatically after a month

This needs to be a thing on the US forums as well, some of the necros I see are super cringe like 3 or 4 years later ugh.

[Henceforth-area-52]

@Moritz-proudmoore

There is a massive difference between thinking a race is able to have children should they wish

That is, elves cannot have that should they wish, or at their will, as stated by Veressa.

[Moritz-proudmoore]

Hardcore agree

If the discussion has ended, it has ended.
Its time for the thread to close.

[Mianyaue-moon-guard]

@Moritz-proudmoore

Hardcore agree

It could happen but I think it should be for the threads with 6 months or more.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Henceforth-area-52

It is not an assumption. It is inferring based on the information we have and we have no reason to suspect otherwise.

You have no reason to suspect at all. You’re jumping to an assumption because you want to pretend they can’t reproduce. When has the void ever shown that an organism it affects can’t?

Heck its the curse of flesh alone that turned creations that couldn’t reproduce into ones that could. There is so much evidence that the void is unlikely to produce infertility compared to any evidence that I can see that it does.

@Henceforth-area-52

If high elves, in their proper, thriving, magical-protected kingdom seldom gave birth, those that are living in a space rock, dealing with void magic, some of them even infused with it… will not do it.

This is an assumption that has no basis on their capability to do so though…

I never said they were faster at it.

@Henceforth-area-52

But yeah you really think they are going to repopulate a whole kingdom like Quel’Thalas.

I also have no clue where you got this from?

I only stated there is no lore or reason to think that the Void Elves cannot reproduce themselves as Void Elves.

I also stated there is no evidence to say they can either, but its more sensible and realistic to assume they can and that it just hasn’t come up in the story because Blizzard doesn’t really have a good reason to do so.

@Henceforth-area-52

I don’t even think that Blood Elves will be able to ever reach back their 148,000 population in less than thousand years (in game) or the time it took for them to grow that much their population.

I’ve yet to see any canonical population numbers for any of the races in WoW.

All races will have the number they need for whatever Blizzard wants them to.

Void Elves are an excellent example of this actually… Despite being a small group of researchers they fielded several different and significant (relative to those around them) forces throughout BfA.

@Henceforth-area-52

On the other hand, you see Orcs, Thrall and Aggra having children in Durotar/Outland (Nagrand). Humans should also have about same birthrate as humans, Dwarves also.

Those ain’t elves though, and that the orcs can reproduce suggests that power infusion does not lower fertility.

@Henceforth-area-52

The thing with Elves (and that includes even Night Elves) is that the well of eternity and its magic, or the magics they were exposed probably affects their birthrates somehow, of course never explained, but that is the only logical information we have, and probably it has to do with the Male elves mostly, because you see, Alleria and Veressa both had children with humans…

None of this is covered in any lore and is entirely an assumption and head canon on your part.

@Moritz-proudmoore

There is a massive difference between thinking a race is able to have children should they wish, and thinking a race will have so many children that their population goes through the roof.

Right? I don’t at all get where he got some sort of ridiculously high birthrate?

[Henceforth-area-52]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

You have no reason to suspect at all. You’re jumping to an assumption because you want to pretend they can’t reproduce. When has the void ever shown that an organism it affects can’t?

Void Elves are modified by the void.

Even the racials shows that it is not just the “study” of the void but they’re infused with it.

Entropic Embrace

Preternatural Calm

Chill of Night

Spatial Rift

So, yeah, I have reasons to belive they were physically and biologically modified by the void. So yes, at the best they have the same birthrate of former High Elves, at the worst, they can’t reproduce.

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

This is an assumption that has no basis on their capability to do so though…

It is not an assumption, it is an analysis based on F A C T S.

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Those ain’t elves though, and that the orcs can reproduce suggests that power infusion does not lower fertility.

Orcs curse of Blood has been lifted already, it is not like Void Elves that are consistently infusing themselves with the void.

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

None of this is covered in any lore and is entirely an assumption and head canon on your part.

It is again analysis based on existing facts.

The only head canon here is yours, after all

[Nelfas-azshara]

@Evilira-barthilas

That’s pretty cool. You should let them know that they have been playable since 2007.

blood elves, not the high elves.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Henceforth-area-52

So, yeah, I have reasons to belive they were physically and biologically modified by the void. So yes, at the best they have the same birthrate of former High Elves, at the worst, they can’t reproduce.

But what are you basing the Void removing their ability to procreate?

The Void has not been shown to do this.

@Henceforth-area-52

It is not an assumption, it is an analysis based on F A C T S.

Its an assumption based on your viewpoint of facts. Thats not the same as an analysis. You’d need to have some specific reason to think the Void would remove the ability to procreate.

@Henceforth-area-52

It is again analysis based on existing facts.

The only head canon here is yours, after all

Again you’re making an assumption not an analysis.

What I don’t understand is what you’re basing the Void creating a sterile creature on?

[Blastkrizzle-wyrmrest-accord]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

But what are you basing the Void removing their ability to procreate?

The Void has not been shown to do this.

Imagination. It’s a fantasy game. Of course they can procreate, it’s one of the basic fantasies of teenagers to find everything sexy and desirable. They will never remove the thirst-factor.

[Athernon-faerlina]

@Nelfas-azshara

not the high elves.

that’s right, blood elves are not high elves.

[Lightspeêd-proudmoore]

procreation and recreation are not synonyms. hehe

[Nelfas-azshara]

correct. Blood elves are playable since 2007, void elves since 2018, high elves will be playable since 2025 since war within will be a total failure and a filler patch before the most important one, THE MIDNIGHT expansion.

[Setiosiris-borean-tundra (Setiosiris)]

some horde players wanted night elves many alliance players wanted high elves. blizzard compromised, and created the void elves a branch of blood elves aka high elves and a type of night elves highborn branch was a faction during that time aka nightborn which became the hordes night elves. so alliance have had their high elves since end of legion early bfa and horde has had their night elves since legion early BFA any discussion asking for the races is just trolling at this point and instead the conversation should be about customization options which there exists a thread for that on the forums.

Void Elf Customization Thread (Ascension of the Ren'dorei) (Part 2)

Continuing the discussion from Void Elf Customization Thread (Ascension of the Ren'dorei) (Part 1) - #7543 by Moritz-proudmoore. Previous discussions: Void Elf Customization Thread (Ascension of the Ren'dorei) (Part 1)

[Felleynd-aggramar]

what makes the elves high elves?

[Nelfas-azshara]

they evolved from the highborne. Now most notable high elves are Silver Covenant with leader Vareesa Windrunner in the alliance. People been asking playable high elves since WCII.

[Bringerz-burning-legion]

@Athernon-faerlina

that’s right, blood elves are not high elves.

Other than the lore, explain to me what is the difference in game? blue eyes?

[Alsonissara-gilneas]

Why does it matter what the difference is?

[Bringerz-burning-legion]

Because what’s the point? to add just another blood elf’s lookalike just to give them blue eyes? really? we already have Void elfs for alliance and blood elfs with the BLUE eyes customization on it’s there… I really don’t understand.

[Alsonissara-gilneas]

What is the point of anything if you decide, arbitrarily, that the reason they want it doesn’t count?

You asked what the difference was beyond the lore, irrespective of the fact that its the lore that is the reason people want this on the Alliance.

What does it matter to you if people want another blood elf lookalike? Don’t play it if you don’t want it.

[Naughtymoon-proudmoore (Naughtymoon)]

There isn’t a difference the whole point of any of these threads is certain people want a 100% copy/paste of Blood Elves on Alliance only with a blue background instead of a red one, they aren’t happy with the fact they can already play a fair skinned, blue eyed, blonde haired Void Elf.