They are in BG’s regularly, they made it so you couldn’t /follow in BG’s but multi box software gets around this.
I can play the same game.
I dislike multi-boxing as a system. But I do not hate the people that use it as long as they do not go bother us in PVP.
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I don’t think it’s twisting of the words as it’s misinformation being tossed around by those that don’t like multi-boxing.
Calling it cheating is a good example of what I mean. Putting aside personal bias, what parts of the TOS / EULA are being violated when someone chooses to multi-box?
Going to toss a few wrenches into the mix to make things mroe clear, so things can be discussed as needed.
- What is the part (don’t paraphrase) and explain how a multi-boxxer is violating it.
- What another company does, holds no water. It’s like the child that gets in trouble and is like, “But Billy did it too!” and the parent is like, “We are not talking about Billy now are we?”
I see a lot of people when they say it’s cheating. They start talking about the part where Acti / Blizz talks about automated play. In my opinion, I think that they are talking about botting as far as the game playing itself and not key cloning which is what multi-boxxing software does.
Even if we want to call the process of key cloning a form of automation. Is Acti / Blizz not allowed to make exceptions to their own rules? Is Acti / Blizz not allowed to make the rules up for their own IP?
Where I live here is an interesting law. It is actually illegal for people to walk in the street like they would on the sidewalk. BUT! there is an exception to the rule. You can walk down the street if the sidewalk is not safe or blocked. You have to walk on the shoulder of the street, but you are allowed to walk on the shoulder. BUT! there is even an exception to that exception. If the shoulder is obstructed and not safe to walk on, then you are allowed to walk in the physical street until you can safely return to the shoulder or the sidewalk.
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ROFL Fungi tunic. As if you ever stepped foot in Old Sebilis. Or had the 70+k plat to pay for one. I mean if you would have named something like stein of moggok I might buy it. Heck I can name drop too. You can keep your Fungi. I was happy with my Blade of Carnage. You know tanking the Avatar of War was a lot of fun.
I think what many people mean by cheating is not necessarily that they are like someone who slides out an ace from their sleeve to win a card game. They are talking more the principle of cheating - that is, it gives the person doing it an advantage over someone who is not. Is it against the rules? No. But that doesn’t mean that, from a certain point of view, it isn’t (ethically) cheating.
Elder Scrolls Online, another major MMO, doesn’t allow mboxing. It allows players to have more than one account, they just aren’t allowed to play multiple accounts at the same time. To ESO it doesn’t matter if people are doing it manually or using some form of software, its the end result that matters. The viewpoint is that it conflicts with their vision of the game’s playstyle. Blizzard has never shared that view; to them, apparently it doesn’t matter how matter characters you play at the same time, as long as you don’t break their real rule of using those characters to bot. (Botting can of course happen on one character or a dozen, so it’s that way for all players.)
Me personally, I would prefer if mboxing wasn’t allowed purely for the advantage it gives one person over another. An mboxer with 5 characters can do a dungeon at level alone. I can’t, and that’s a pretty clear advantage. However, it is allowed, and that’s really the end of the story.
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See more trolling out of you. No, you can’t have my weightless bags.
If the talking is about the use of third party software to multi-box. This would mean using something that is not part of the game to gain an advantage right? Yet there are game addons that give players advantages over those that don’t use them in some cases. Then we could stretch the umbrella wider and talk about people that go online for guides to min / max or the like.
Do the means matter when it’s the end results that need to be met. There still needs to be five toons going into the dungeon for example.
I would say that in this instance, those not multi-boxing might be making the game arbitrarily harder for themselves. Nothing wrong with that if that is what they like to do. I can think of people creating various handicaps to make the game harder to see if they can beat the machine.
I would love to see things happen as well, but I know that they will be around. yet I do have a way to deal with them and generally everyone else does.
- I would love to see people do 1 v 1 fights instead of 10 v 1
- I would love to see level 120’s only fight other level 120’s instead of going after level 20’s
- I would love to see people not rage and belittle people over not playing the meta
- I would love to see price gouging come to a halt
- I would love to see a less toxic community
Sadly since I know these are only wishful thinkings. I do what I do to make my time playing this game enjoyable as best I can.
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What bag are we talking here? Bag of the Tinkerers, Darkwood Trunk, Kavruul’s Mystic Pouch, Or Box of Abu-Kar? Oh wait I bet you are talking about Large Soiled Bag. Its ok But I need bags with at least large capacity.
Why do you need validation?
Many people, myself included, dislike multiboxing and, by association, multiboxers. It has nothing to do with whether they’re good or bad or whether they help or hinder other players, it has to do with the playstyle itself.
Do what you want, as long as you’re not breaking any rules it shouldn’t matter what other people think of your preferred play style. People will dislike what they dislike and no amount of “but they aren’t hurting anyone” is going to change their opinion. Agree to disagree and all that.
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No, that isn’t what I mean. I’m not talking how it is done, but the end result. I do get the difference.
Well, that’s a weird viewpoint. So playing one character is ‘arbitrary’? It isn’t arbitrary at all, we don’t create a single character at a time on a whim or because we think it might be harder to play it that way. It is factually the way the game is designed to be played. Mboxing - which uses software and systems created outside of WoW - is a separate play style and one not supported by Blizzard. They don’t ban it, just don’t support it because they didn’t create it.
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Yes, making the game arbitrarily harder for themselves. It’s going to hopefully make sense, not always the best with words. But I’m going to try and do it.
Acti / Blizz is a company that is all about making money. Yet they ban bots, but these bots bring about money. If they ban the bots, this only leaves players.
If you look at all of the various things that people are able to do in game. From vote kicking people for the lol’s to raging at them because they are not playing the meta. Just look at the forums now and people going crazy over the covenants.
So I start thinking about the general toxicity of the wow community and I think about the wow content. I ask myself a single question.
“WHY?!?!? would anyone put up with any of that?” There are a couple of reasons why that I can think of.
- They just don’t have the means to stop it (multi-boxing)
- They are a glutton for punishment.
So then all I can think is, If these people do have the means to not deal with the madness, and they are just not choosing to do so. They are just making their gaming experience harder for themselves, when they don’t have to.
Like I said, there is nothing wrong with making the game harder for oneself if that is their thing. I walk to work, when I could ride a bike. Making my trip shorter. So in a sense making my journey to work harder on myself, even though I have the means not to.
Maybe it’s a weird point of view, but it does seem to make sense to at least me.
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Its and mmorpg your not suppose to play with 4 copies and do group content solo. If you want to solo so badly swtor or runescape you can solo all day everyday.
I love your Google look up skills. No, my bags are too large for you.
Just because the game is an MMO. That doesn’t mean that people must play together. MMO mass multiplayer online. That just says to me that there are a bunch of people sharing a single space.
In reality, now that I think about it. It saves the company money going MMO route instead of single player. Since they can just make new servers and keep adding more players without having to make more copies of a physical product.
I’m not sure you’re using that word correctly.
ar·bi·trar·y
/ˈärbəˌtrerē/
based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
The choice to not multibox is neither random choice nor a whim.
Whim
/(h)wim/
a sudden desire or change of mind, especially one that is unusual or unexplained.
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They changed the rules so that multi logging isnt a bannable offense anymore, so no, if you are soloing you are objectively putting yourself at a disadvantage for no reason. You could run back to the bank, or you could make an alt to bank your things for you and never have to leave a spot nor hire bank runners.
If you don’t think multiple logging in, in any form, in any rpg is exploitative and undermines solo player experience, you’re delusional. Be it multiboxing, using both faction auction houses on classic, or having a priest alt to get buffs you normally wouldn’t have access to, or mind controlling same faction to kill them on your main, I use exploit having both horde and alliance alts but it’s definitely not fair for it to be allowed, people not doing it are handicapping themselves.
Massive multiplayer online role playing game literally is the genre 
yes you are ment to socialize and play with others. Your basically wanting to play link x5 from zelda and ruin everyone else’s D&D game.
That is a new one. Like anyone who played EQ for any amount of time would need Google to look up 100% wr bags. You know because they had so many of them.
I know you know every rare Sarnak name in game. You are too funny!
Heck you probably remember every quest you did in game.